tbf they are literally building entirely new cities to alleviate this issue because the sprawl was uncontainable due to population growth for such a long time. had to slap anything and everything down as fast as possible to keep up with modernization
theyre hoping to relocate something like half of tianjin and beijing to a third completely new city nearby to alleviate traffic and improve infrastructure in those big old cities
theres a lot of videos about it on youtube, china is clearly trying to attract a ton of people to it, immigrants and citizens alike. Xiong'an is the name
whats interesting to me is they are having a mandated driverless/no humans road underneath the city that directly deliver to underground parking lots beneath major buildings. tons of ventilation and fire suppression systems. point is to reduce the number of cars on the road everyone is on while still moving goods through the city quickly between buildings
basically hyperloop but actually sensible and well designed. not meant for transporting people, thats what trains, buses, and bikes are for
i can see why they wouldnt want to use a train or rail on this so that the cars could exit certain areas to pick up goods that arent serviced by trains or the underground road. some things, like moving some equipment between offices, would only require a small truck to deliver which corporations would do instead of using freight due to profit seeking. and if nearly every building has an underground parking lot, it isnt crazy to think 'hey maybe we should connect them all'. i saw one video that mentioned buses that would be able to directly attach to electric lines so theyd be akin to trolleys, and video of the underground road is mostly lightless and also had similar wiring so i assume the cars could hook into that too. they implied that all the cars would be electric. theres a big push to make it the center of the northern metro area there and have high speed rail to each city like beijing that you can use to get there on a regular commute, which would mean reduced intercity congestion which is where most of it comes from
a big part of this is theyre trying to avoid the city having a large footprint. china has been doing this thing lately where they build a big new city near some sort of natural thing that could be beautiful but is polluted terribly, and they restore the environment and have bridges on stilts so that people can look at it without interfering in the environment. they also mentioned a law that banned typical propelling motors on boats through the lake and wetland, banning fishing, and only allows sails, small boats with person driven oars, and large boats with electrified oars. they usually mention driving investment in the city through corporations moving into cheap rental buildings owned by the government and using that to keep the environment safe.
Typically I'm a big critic (critical support and all that) but in this case I trust the planners to do this right. I look forward to this green city of the future :xi-clap: .
yeah im critical of it myself but my opinion is that if xi and the left faction in government are mentioning it by name all the time and doing a big propaganda push for it, both internally and externally, theyre taking special care for it
a big thing to me imo is seeing all the data collection points they have. theres a ton. i assume this is a highly advanced pilot city to test some ideas and then use the data to refine the ideas. they have a ton of pillars and stuff all throughout the city that measure air/water quality, leeching into the environment, traffic volume, even pillars inside train stations and other nexuses in the city to do similar. seems like a big information gathering scheme so they can do it better next time rather than going off of previous data that wasnt as well gathered and ordered
oh and they have automated turrets that detect fires apparently and put them out lol. not just sprinklers they look like something youd see on a fire truck lol
Also in China :doomer:
tbf they are literally building entirely new cities to alleviate this issue because the sprawl was uncontainable due to population growth for such a long time. had to slap anything and everything down as fast as possible to keep up with modernization
theyre hoping to relocate something like half of tianjin and beijing to a third completely new city nearby to alleviate traffic and improve infrastructure in those big old cities
source: https://youtu.be/HLd5k7O_xyY | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdJe4jYsGcs | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r67JU-oVdFw | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5u1xSThgbI (most recent)
theres a lot of videos about it on youtube, china is clearly trying to attract a ton of people to it, immigrants and citizens alike. Xiong'an is the name
It's not perfect, but it's damn impressive. The U.S. could never dream of doing something like this.
whats interesting to me is they are having a mandated driverless/no humans road underneath the city that directly deliver to underground parking lots beneath major buildings. tons of ventilation and fire suppression systems. point is to reduce the number of cars on the road everyone is on while still moving goods through the city quickly between buildings
basically hyperloop but actually sensible and well designed. not meant for transporting people, thats what trains, buses, and bikes are for
I'd rather they use a train but that's pretty cool. Hopefully it's all-electric.
i can see why they wouldnt want to use a train or rail on this so that the cars could exit certain areas to pick up goods that arent serviced by trains or the underground road. some things, like moving some equipment between offices, would only require a small truck to deliver which corporations would do instead of using freight due to profit seeking. and if nearly every building has an underground parking lot, it isnt crazy to think 'hey maybe we should connect them all'. i saw one video that mentioned buses that would be able to directly attach to electric lines so theyd be akin to trolleys, and video of the underground road is mostly lightless and also had similar wiring so i assume the cars could hook into that too. they implied that all the cars would be electric. theres a big push to make it the center of the northern metro area there and have high speed rail to each city like beijing that you can use to get there on a regular commute, which would mean reduced intercity congestion which is where most of it comes from
a big part of this is theyre trying to avoid the city having a large footprint. china has been doing this thing lately where they build a big new city near some sort of natural thing that could be beautiful but is polluted terribly, and they restore the environment and have bridges on stilts so that people can look at it without interfering in the environment. they also mentioned a law that banned typical propelling motors on boats through the lake and wetland, banning fishing, and only allows sails, small boats with person driven oars, and large boats with electrified oars. they usually mention driving investment in the city through corporations moving into cheap rental buildings owned by the government and using that to keep the environment safe.
Typically I'm a big critic (critical support and all that) but in this case I trust the planners to do this right. I look forward to this green city of the future :xi-clap: .
yeah im critical of it myself but my opinion is that if xi and the left faction in government are mentioning it by name all the time and doing a big propaganda push for it, both internally and externally, theyre taking special care for it
a big thing to me imo is seeing all the data collection points they have. theres a ton. i assume this is a highly advanced pilot city to test some ideas and then use the data to refine the ideas. they have a ton of pillars and stuff all throughout the city that measure air/water quality, leeching into the environment, traffic volume, even pillars inside train stations and other nexuses in the city to do similar. seems like a big information gathering scheme so they can do it better next time rather than going off of previous data that wasnt as well gathered and ordered
oh and they have automated turrets that detect fires apparently and put them out lol. not just sprinklers they look like something youd see on a fire truck lol
So a walkable underground grid?