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I love how mad this is making people.
He's the Pope. Obviously he's going to want peace. What the hell do people expect? He doesn't care if land is Russian or Ukrainian as long as people stop dying. The geopolitics of the situation are simply not part of his ideology.
Interesting that he chooses to say the people having a genocide done on them need to surrender (which they've literally done and been shot anyway btw) and not the perpetrators of said genocide needing to stop.
Probably because the Pope is and always has been a piece of shit
Interesting that he chooses to say the people having a genocide done on them need to surrender
Huh he didnt say this about the people in Gaza, what are you talking about?
Lmao well you sure don't use the actual definition of genocide
[T]he ICJ ruled on Friday that it will not address whether Russia violated the 1948 Genocide Convention by using what Ukraine says were trumped-up genocide charges as a pretext for the war, even if the invasion may have violated international law broadly.
Instead, the case will proceed to assess whether Ukraine committed genocide in the eastern parts of the country, as Russia claims – a matter where judges ruled that they have jurisdiction.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/2/icj-rules-that-it-will-hear-part-of-ukraine-russia-genocide-case
Well, if Pope is called "piece of shit" for calling to negotiations to prevent more people dying, then who are you, who's ok with war going on? Entire shit?
then who are you, who's ok with war going on?
Put more words in my mouth, it makes you look so much smarter
War crimes like the forcible transfer of children (i.e. genocide) are for the ICJ to deal with. As a religious leader his prerogative is to reduce suffering and death, by whatever means necessary.
More importantly, Russia can keep this up far longer than Ukraine and he doesn't want us to fight to the last Ukrainian.
Right, a smaller country can never successfully resist a larger one. That's why Vietnam has been under US occupation (or was it French? I can never remember for some reason) all these years since Ho Cho Minh wisely surrendered to spare his people's lives.
A smaller neighbor is vastly different. Vietnam was on the other side of the planet for America and halfway for France. You can't ignore that.
The Viet Minh enjoyed the support of the people. The Kyiv regime needs to send out kidnapping squads to fill gaps in their lines. They do not have the support of the people, so their prospects for a successful insurgency are nil.
Or maybe people that think Ukraine should negotiate are actually just normal people that can analyze facts...
We're not paying Dalai Lama to stay quiet. Have him say "to the last Ukrainian" immediately!
I mean, it wouldn't be the first time feudal Tibet ended up featuring in Nazi propaganda.
Yeah, he's old and didn't use the happiest words.. but the Vatican clarified he didn't mean "unconditional surrender" and instead only meant "negotiate a peace deal".
AFAIU (and also AFAIC - "as far as I care") It's not entirely clear yet if the Pope suggests that Ukraine should give up territory in exchange for peace (and what about reparations?) or if he just means "be good people and make peace" (which would be much more in line with how he usually talks). I don't think whatever the Pope thinks will really be of much consequence given how geopolitically relevant this war is ("The Pope? How many divisions has he got?")
This whole news/argument serves as great marketing for the TV program where the the interview will be broadcasted (which I'd assume is not unintentional)
I wonder if he would say the same thing if Russia attacked the Vatican.
