The former. I made my first post here asking about potential real world implications of the "MAGA communist" movement after I saw it being given credence by the CPGB-ML. Before coming here I wrote a post condemning it for what it is/warning comrades new to communism/Marxist theory, quoting the prolewiki page on "MAGA communism" and shared it around (this was how I ended up on Lemmygrad - it was a relief to see that this has long been called out by MLs).
Anyway they banned me from various channels they run on Telegram proclaiming to be "communist". This "party" is led by spiders with webs designed to catch naive comrades and render them impotent as potential agitators and organisers within the labour movement etc. by leading them down the path of reactionary, bigoted thought and now this patsoc stuff, which I hadn't seen much of in Britain at least within the political circles I am in*. As I said, "MAGA communism" didn't seem to have much credence and was described as a weird little cult by a comrade on Twitter before I left the platform, I didn't give it much thought until suddenly seeing the CPGB-ML promoting/encouraging it just a few days ago (I hadn't been on Telegram long either and mainly use it for news on the ground from Palestine and news relating to other struggles).
It was shocking and angering and it worries me given that these patsoc crypto-fascists are obviously trying to invade spaces in a manner akin to Trotkyist entryism. A major issue is that Marxism-Leninism is not adequately represented in the confused and fragmented "revolutionary left" in Britain and the parties seem to be run by the intelligence apparatus (their ideological positioning obviously serves the bourgeoisie, especially these off-shoots from the "official" CPB).
The latter party I know less about but they seem to be on the same page when it comes to being reactionaries from memory. If they are supporting this bullshit, they are opportunists of the worst kind as well as the former "party".
(*For what its worth, many older comrades who have been around for many decades have told me that the CPGB-ML have ties to the intelligence agencies in Britain so it all makes sense if that is the case. Same with the other party mentioned, or at least an older manifestation of the same core group. But this patsoc stuff doesn't seem to be represented in Britain in the way that it has been in the US. Perhaps I just haven't seen examples of it because of it being "terminally online". The closest I have seen is largely uncritical support of Putin by groups such as these but no one really pays attention to them as I'm sure you know).
Sorry for the lengthy reply, I am new to Lemmygrad and essentially came to vent frustration over seeing this happen within circles of the British "left" which I highly doubt to be coincidental. It serves a highly useful purpose for one class and it isn't the proletariat.
Agreed. They are nothing like the "CPGB-ML" which already had a highly chauvinist streak but I've had discussions with a comrade in that party (CPB) and they have problems when it comes to the national question but also their support for the Labour Party, although I would hope that they have gotten rid of that now.
BTW by Worker's Party did you mean George Galloway's party? If so, that wouldn't surprise me at all. He's always been an opportunist hack. Had some brief moments of glory when calling out the Iraq War and facing down a load of zionists on Question Time once, but he is the archetypal opportunist politician.
Hinkle is one of the "MAGA communism" fascists right?
And there are self-proclaimed "Marxist-Leninists" and even an "ML party" (long speculated to be spooks) in Britain which is supporting this bullshit.
CPGB? Or the Workers' Party? Both are supporting Maupin and the PatSocs/MAGA communists.
The former. I made my first post here asking about potential real world implications of the "MAGA communist" movement after I saw it being given credence by the CPGB-ML. Before coming here I wrote a post condemning it for what it is/warning comrades new to communism/Marxist theory, quoting the prolewiki page on "MAGA communism" and shared it around (this was how I ended up on Lemmygrad - it was a relief to see that this has long been called out by MLs).
Anyway they banned me from various channels they run on Telegram proclaiming to be "communist". This "party" is led by spiders with webs designed to catch naive comrades and render them impotent as potential agitators and organisers within the labour movement etc. by leading them down the path of reactionary, bigoted thought and now this patsoc stuff, which I hadn't seen much of in Britain at least within the political circles I am in*. As I said, "MAGA communism" didn't seem to have much credence and was described as a weird little cult by a comrade on Twitter before I left the platform, I didn't give it much thought until suddenly seeing the CPGB-ML promoting/encouraging it just a few days ago (I hadn't been on Telegram long either and mainly use it for news on the ground from Palestine and news relating to other struggles).
It was shocking and angering and it worries me given that these patsoc crypto-fascists are obviously trying to invade spaces in a manner akin to Trotkyist entryism. A major issue is that Marxism-Leninism is not adequately represented in the confused and fragmented "revolutionary left" in Britain and the parties seem to be run by the intelligence apparatus (their ideological positioning obviously serves the bourgeoisie, especially these off-shoots from the "official" CPB).
The latter party I know less about but they seem to be on the same page when it comes to being reactionaries from memory. If they are supporting this bullshit, they are opportunists of the worst kind as well as the former "party".
(*For what its worth, many older comrades who have been around for many decades have told me that the CPGB-ML have ties to the intelligence agencies in Britain so it all makes sense if that is the case. Same with the other party mentioned, or at least an older manifestation of the same core group. But this patsoc stuff doesn't seem to be represented in Britain in the way that it has been in the US. Perhaps I just haven't seen examples of it because of it being "terminally online". The closest I have seen is largely uncritical support of Putin by groups such as these but no one really pays attention to them as I'm sure you know).
Sorry for the lengthy reply, I am new to Lemmygrad and essentially came to vent frustration over seeing this happen within circles of the British "left" which I highly doubt to be coincidental. It serves a highly useful purpose for one class and it isn't the proletariat.
CPB... allows trans members in their party and they have many trans members. The problem is some of their policies on the Nat'l level.
Agreed. They are nothing like the "CPGB-ML" which already had a highly chauvinist streak but I've had discussions with a comrade in that party (CPB) and they have problems when it comes to the national question but also their support for the Labour Party, although I would hope that they have gotten rid of that now.
BTW by Worker's Party did you mean George Galloway's party? If so, that wouldn't surprise me at all. He's always been an opportunist hack. Had some brief moments of glory when calling out the Iraq War and facing down a load of zionists on Question Time once, but he is the archetypal opportunist politician.
yeah, George Galloway's party.
That guy's a fuckin clown.