Indigenous people get first priority to stay. Basically everyone else has to go. Phoenix must be obliterated. The desert should be a desert, not a golf course and alfalfa farm.

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]M
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    2 years ago

    1. The number of people in Arizona is unsustainable by any measure

    2. Anglos live by the far most unsustainable lives in Arizona (and everywhere else)

    3. It would be morally correct to remove destructive settlers

    4. It would be completely unjustifiable to remove native people

    5. 20% of the current population of Arizona could live sustainable, water rich lives in Arizona

    6. Native people of Arizona want agency over the land of Arizona, the land of their people - they aren't asking for northern forests

    Unless your suggestion is that we also remove the native people, what do you suggest?

    Native Arizonans are currently not receiving water that's instead going to farms to feed Saudi cattle and white golf courses

    • blight [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      i'm just scraeming "problematic" and gesturing vaguely at everything but yeah those things would be good but it's not going to happen and even if it did, being surrounded by settlers on all sides poisoning the entire biome makes even that a dead end

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]M
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        2 years ago

        https://apnews.com/article/politics-toronto-arizona-environment-f4b4ad6a0d4dc233fc931c59917c00a6

        https://www.npr.org/2022/06/02/1102575257/the-reopening-of-an-uranium-mine-in-arizona-has-indigenous-people-worried

        https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2022/04/copper-oak-flat-apache-stronghold-sacred-run-electric-car-batteries-green-energy/

        The sovereignty rights of Arizona tribes are constantly under attack: environmentally, politically, economically. Given the other issues caused by Arizona's climate, it's the place where literal mass-removal of settlers makes the most sense of anywhere in the US and is certainly the most justifiable.

        Is that likely to happen? No, but in the mean time, what I'm arguing for is more Indian sovereignty in Arizona as the best solution to the climate disaster of the state and the only way to right the wrongs of settlement and displacement.