buy whatever brand of illuminati tracking device you like, but if you wanna use it for more than five years, don't get anything with an oled screen.
e: and i think lightning is objectively the better connector to have on a cell phone. there's a million things to make fun of apple/iphones/the users for, don't pick the one that's demonstrably better than the alternative in nearly every way.
it's more durable, easier to clean, and the cable end tends to break instead of the inlet on the device.
u/aaaaaaadjsf is right to worry about burn in on oleds, but i've never seen it real bad on a phone before.
oled displays have a much worse failure mode where the screen just gets dimmer and dimmer till its not lighting in any perceptible way at all. the different colored elements in the screen dim at a different rate, so over time the color balance shifts as well.
what makes it a showstopper is that it's dependent on both time and use, so a display that's used more and brighter will degrade in one way and a display that's just left in a box for years will degrade in another even if it's never connected to anything.
so whereas your old lcd interposing on a backlight type display can be replaced and repaired, and new old stock spare parts used for decades, oled devices are destined to most likely never be usable again by the time their displays dim because the spare parts are slowly going bad in storage.
there's a bunch of mp3 and minidisc players that are basically irreparable trash now because of it. although theyre using a much earlier version of the technology that dimmed worse and faster and are much harder to engineer a replacement display for because of the size, shape and need for a microcontroller to sit in between the device and whatever thing might get grafted in.
but wait, there's more! do you wanna use graphene os on an android device to be as private and secure as you possibly can be and have full control over your own hardware? well all the best phones for graphene are google pixels and those are universally oled (it's in the name!).
Batteries are replaceable, capacitors are replaceable, memory can be reflashed. Once oled screens degrade, you gotta get a newer production assembly and suddenly that’s hard to find. When you do find it you’re navigating third party parts, it’s not a good quality Samsung model, now not everything fits right, maybe it doesn’t last as long or isn’t as durable.
This is of course all true of any assembly or discrete component but on batteries or diodes for example you have wider tolerance and fit ranges, hell there might be a range of standard types and values with their identifiers written right there on the back of the part.
Oled displays have a lot of the same problems as vfds before them, but with none of the space to stuff a replacement display and microcontroller in there as a replacement.
I truly hope you’re right, that the displays of today will last into the future. It hasn’t been my experience.
I also hope that a new standard is developed that leads to more people breaking their stuff and bringing em to me to fix. It would be cool to not have to learn every new insane tech thing I’ll never personally use.
With my experience, burn in happens way before dimming and colour balance changes in terms of what you notice first.
The first thing that burned in on my phone I have now was a very, very feint line across the top half of the screen, where the divide would be between a video and the chat or comments when watching a video with the comments open on YouTube or twitch. It's not noticeable most times, I can only see the line when the whole screen is displaying a single bright colour. Thankfully nothing else, and it hasn't gotten worse.
My first smartphone had the whole keyboard layout and WhatsApp interface burned into the screen by the end lmao. And the colour change was there, but minimal. Everything looked more yellow
yeah, i see em from time to time but it's just not as much of a concern for my own use case.
it's a real bummer that even if we lived in the ideal cyberpunk dystopia where you could just suffer through using 3g or edge and had good updates to your software pushed out to keep as much security in place as possible we'd still have the unplanned obsolescence of these things forcing upgrades and making data impossible to recover off em.
Apple should have not made it proprietary then, the connector that's on literally every single other rechargeable device I own at this point, from my weed pen and ecig, to my laptop, phone, and headphones, is truly the objectively superior option. Ubiquity wins out every time, when I can be assured that everything I own can be charged with one cable.
Also how are you breaking USB-C ports or cables so much? I've had USB-C phones for almost eight years now and never once have any of my cables or ports gotten damaged to the point of unusability, and I'm definitely not the most gentle user out there.
I don’t tend to break a lot of stuff. I do replace a bunch of ports on other peoples devices and usbc on phones is just much more prone to coming in broke. Anything can be broken, I just see usbc come in broken more often than lightning.
I’m glad it’s working good! Everything degrades at different rates and the way I use stuff I never see new oled displays I own screwing up unless it’s under a lab setting where there’s a way to measure it. The only ones I ever owned that messed up so bad were the real bad old kind.
There’s a lot of software that came out around that time to address problems with oled displays too like real time color balance adjustment and dark modes.
You ever had it dim under hot conditions? I’ve seen that on the x. Wild that now the displays themselves generate heat.
good, hopefully theyll hold out long enough to put out another non-oled phone with lightning.
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buy whatever brand of illuminati tracking device you like, but if you wanna use it for more than five years, don't get anything with an oled screen.
e: and i think lightning is objectively the better connector to have on a cell phone. there's a million things to make fun of apple/iphones/the users for, don't pick the one that's demonstrably better than the alternative in nearly every way.
it's more durable, easier to clean, and the cable end tends to break instead of the inlet on the device.
what's this about oled?
u/aaaaaaadjsf is right to worry about burn in on oleds, but i've never seen it real bad on a phone before.
oled displays have a much worse failure mode where the screen just gets dimmer and dimmer till its not lighting in any perceptible way at all. the different colored elements in the screen dim at a different rate, so over time the color balance shifts as well.
what makes it a showstopper is that it's dependent on both time and use, so a display that's used more and brighter will degrade in one way and a display that's just left in a box for years will degrade in another even if it's never connected to anything.
so whereas your old lcd interposing on a backlight type display can be replaced and repaired, and new old stock spare parts used for decades, oled devices are destined to most likely never be usable again by the time their displays dim because the spare parts are slowly going bad in storage.
there's a bunch of mp3 and minidisc players that are basically irreparable trash now because of it. although theyre using a much earlier version of the technology that dimmed worse and faster and are much harder to engineer a replacement display for because of the size, shape and need for a microcontroller to sit in between the device and whatever thing might get grafted in.
but wait, there's more! do you wanna use graphene os on an android device to be as private and secure as you possibly can be and have full control over your own hardware? well all the best phones for graphene are google pixels and those are universally oled (it's in the name!).
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Batteries are replaceable, capacitors are replaceable, memory can be reflashed. Once oled screens degrade, you gotta get a newer production assembly and suddenly that’s hard to find. When you do find it you’re navigating third party parts, it’s not a good quality Samsung model, now not everything fits right, maybe it doesn’t last as long or isn’t as durable.
This is of course all true of any assembly or discrete component but on batteries or diodes for example you have wider tolerance and fit ranges, hell there might be a range of standard types and values with their identifiers written right there on the back of the part.
Oled displays have a lot of the same problems as vfds before them, but with none of the space to stuff a replacement display and microcontroller in there as a replacement.
I truly hope you’re right, that the displays of today will last into the future. It hasn’t been my experience.
I also hope that a new standard is developed that leads to more people breaking their stuff and bringing em to me to fix. It would be cool to not have to learn every new insane tech thing I’ll never personally use.
My VR headset is OLED and about 4 years old; I’ve used it a lot. :thinking-about-it:
dimming might actually not be that noticeable on a wearable that's got a monopoly on your retinas.
Screen burn in.
Like the outline of your keyboard appears permanently on screen.
i guess that could happen, i'm more concerned about dimming and balance changing over time.
With my experience, burn in happens way before dimming and colour balance changes in terms of what you notice first.
The first thing that burned in on my phone I have now was a very, very feint line across the top half of the screen, where the divide would be between a video and the chat or comments when watching a video with the comments open on YouTube or twitch. It's not noticeable most times, I can only see the line when the whole screen is displaying a single bright colour. Thankfully nothing else, and it hasn't gotten worse.
My first smartphone had the whole keyboard layout and WhatsApp interface burned into the screen by the end lmao. And the colour change was there, but minimal. Everything looked more yellow
yeah, i see em from time to time but it's just not as much of a concern for my own use case.
it's a real bummer that even if we lived in the ideal cyberpunk dystopia where you could just suffer through using 3g or edge and had good updates to your software pushed out to keep as much security in place as possible we'd still have the unplanned obsolescence of these things forcing upgrades and making data impossible to recover off em.
Apple should have not made it proprietary then, the connector that's on literally every single other rechargeable device I own at this point, from my weed pen and ecig, to my laptop, phone, and headphones, is truly the objectively superior option. Ubiquity wins out every time, when I can be assured that everything I own can be charged with one cable.
Also how are you breaking USB-C ports or cables so much? I've had USB-C phones for almost eight years now and never once have any of my cables or ports gotten damaged to the point of unusability, and I'm definitely not the most gentle user out there.
I don’t tend to break a lot of stuff. I do replace a bunch of ports on other peoples devices and usbc on phones is just much more prone to coming in broke. Anything can be broken, I just see usbc come in broken more often than lightning.
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I’m glad it’s working good! Everything degrades at different rates and the way I use stuff I never see new oled displays I own screwing up unless it’s under a lab setting where there’s a way to measure it. The only ones I ever owned that messed up so bad were the real bad old kind.
There’s a lot of software that came out around that time to address problems with oled displays too like real time color balance adjustment and dark modes.
You ever had it dim under hot conditions? I’ve seen that on the x. Wild that now the displays themselves generate heat.