Honestly i have no fucking idea waht drives these fucking idiots to be so insistent on supporting their genocidal dictators

  • Enver_Hoxha [she/her]
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    Lol yeah supporting an irredeemable piece of shit because of "anti-imperialism" what the fuck does having a psychopatic dictator launching a civil war to protect his rule have to do with anti imperialism it doesnt help anyone what about the people in the war torn country and the poeple tortured in their prisons and the refugees your anti imperialism has done SO MUCH GOOD

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      you're not analysing the situation in it's totality and understanding how Syria got into the situation they are in now and what needs to happen to improve their situation. You look at features of the situation in Syria and extrapolate to these huge moral notions about Assad personally and that prevents you from being able to see the forest from the trees, which would be the dialectical understanding. Also, the anti-imperialism I'm talking about has lifted millions of people out of poverty and overthrown the bourgeoise in over a dozen countries.

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        ASSAD BECAME THE RULER OF SYRIA BECAUSE HIS CHAD BORTHER CRASHED HIS CAR AND WHEN PEOPLE DEMANDED ACTUAL FUCKING DEMOCRACY AND END TO THE CRIPPLING CORRUTPION ASSAD DECIDED TO KILL THE PEOPLE ITS NOT AT ALL MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT

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          ...but it is actually much more complicated than that, the history of a country and it's trajectory cannot be understood through the biography of a single person, because Syria is not the result of the will of a single despot but of a multitude of historical process. History also has a class character and every political struggle is a class struggle. The agitation for Western style "democracy" represented the class interest of the Western capitalists and would have made the country much worse off (see post Soviet eastern Europe, India, and Latin America for the concrete results of this kind of neoliberal pillaging).

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            Syria has been a fucking dictatorship for a long time its not complicated at all

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              You honestly haven't been a very generous or curious discussion partner (and here I thought you actually wanted to know why "tankies" believe what they do), but any revolutionary worth their salt should never stop studying and struggling with others over matters of ideology, and to that end I ask you to, in future discussion, try to understand where people come from when they engage in good faith discussion and not make caricatures of their views and then stone-wall. There are not blood-thirsty "red fash" in your midst.