I don't really what problem this solves other than the ability to sell you more slop and create the advertisements more slop. From what I have seen, there is no guarantee for correctness on technical matters. It's doesn't feed or clothes people. So I kind of always feel odd when people say it's un Marxist to be against AI Art or Chat GPT.
Chat GPT can write code. It can debug code. It can design websites. It can translate language better than any automated language translation services. I fail to see how this doesn’t automate socially necessary work and solve problems
Let's be honest. ChatGPT is copying code snippets from StackOverflow with varying levels of correctness. I guess that is what people were doing anyways though.
And this time last year it was much worse and couldn’t even do the more generic requests. It will continue to refine.
Remember, automation doesn’t need to be better than humans at coding. It just needs to be good enough to function, and then it will take over because it’s basically free
It's not connected to the internet but the model was trained (and is constantly re-trained) with shit scrapped from the internet, which makes the distinction meaningless.
AI has improved exponentially in just the last year. You are completely blind if you do not see the potential this has to basically eliminate nearly all white collar work as it becomes even more sophisticated
I mean, I'm a bit skeptic because most coding work is actually eternally debugging shitty code, I barely write stuff at my current work, I'm lucky if I get to do more than 20 lines a week, because most of the day is spent browsing undocumented garbage finding the most appropriate place to add my fix in. Leaving that aside, we have always been at risk of white collar jobs being either lost, or precarized, or outsourced, or being flooded with too many workers, or at risk that the bubble will burst fundamentally undermining the value of IT forever, or all of them happening at once. This AI shit might be a catalyst but what has meaningfully changed in the working relationship? We were ALWAYS at risk.
What does "being against it" do, though? What specific actions would you take in opposition to deep learning tech?
I'm strict on calling it un-Marxist because carrying out an anti-AI programme would rely on either an unsustainable unending struggle against everyone trying to recreate it, or going full :a-guy: and bringing us so far back into the Stone Age that we can never reindustrialize again.
Most of the problems that people describe with deep learning tech, including what you're describing, are problems with the system that it exists within, not problems with the tech itself. The abolition of capitalism is the only sustainable and permanent solution to the problem, and would be one that allows humanity to fully realize its benefits with few adverse consequences.
As of right now, I do not think any opposition to AI will actually benefit workers in any way -- the most likely outcome would be that huge media companies end up being the only people able to effectively use the technology, which will result in most of the job eliminations we would hope to prevent happening anyways. It's a fight between media companies wanting stronger copyright (look up the Mickey Mouse curve -- we're due for another expansion of copyright) and tech companies wanting to sell ridiculously overpriced cloud services, and regular artists don't get a seat at this table under our current system.
From what I have seen, there is no guarantee for correctness on technical matters.
But it comes close, which makes it a useful tool. A programmer can get it to generate some code, then they go through and make sure it's good. I've used it for that, there was one problem it wasn't able to help me solve, but there was another problem where it probably saved me a good hour or two (probably more if I lost focus because of untreated ADHD) of trying to find if someone else had my specific problem or else breaking the problem down to more generic problems.
Similar goes for art. Artists can use an AI generated image as a base and work from there.
I don't really what problem this solves other than the ability to sell you more slop and create the advertisements more slop. From what I have seen, there is no guarantee for correctness on technical matters. It's doesn't feed or clothes people. So I kind of always feel odd when people say it's un Marxist to be against AI Art or Chat GPT.
Chat GPT can write code. It can debug code. It can design websites. It can translate language better than any automated language translation services. I fail to see how this doesn’t automate socially necessary work and solve problems
Let's be honest. ChatGPT is copying code snippets from StackOverflow with varying levels of correctness. I guess that is what people were doing anyways though.
No it isn’t connected to the internet any longer and it creates novel code for requests in plain English that are extremely specific and niche
The more specific you get the more wrong it tends to get though, it really starts messing up on the small details.
And this time last year it was much worse and couldn’t even do the more generic requests. It will continue to refine.
Remember, automation doesn’t need to be better than humans at coding. It just needs to be good enough to function, and then it will take over because it’s basically free
It's not connected to the internet but the model was trained (and is constantly re-trained) with shit scrapped from the internet, which makes the distinction meaningless.
The legacy code creator. Debugging from scratch every time. Everyone's favorite activity.
AI has improved exponentially in just the last year. You are completely blind if you do not see the potential this has to basically eliminate nearly all white collar work as it becomes even more sophisticated
I mean, I'm a bit skeptic because most coding work is actually eternally debugging shitty code, I barely write stuff at my current work, I'm lucky if I get to do more than 20 lines a week, because most of the day is spent browsing undocumented garbage finding the most appropriate place to add my fix in. Leaving that aside, we have always been at risk of white collar jobs being either lost, or precarized, or outsourced, or being flooded with too many workers, or at risk that the bubble will burst fundamentally undermining the value of IT forever, or all of them happening at once. This AI shit might be a catalyst but what has meaningfully changed in the working relationship? We were ALWAYS at risk.
What does "being against it" do, though? What specific actions would you take in opposition to deep learning tech?
I'm strict on calling it un-Marxist because carrying out an anti-AI programme would rely on either an unsustainable unending struggle against everyone trying to recreate it, or going full :a-guy: and bringing us so far back into the Stone Age that we can never reindustrialize again.
Most of the problems that people describe with deep learning tech, including what you're describing, are problems with the system that it exists within, not problems with the tech itself. The abolition of capitalism is the only sustainable and permanent solution to the problem, and would be one that allows humanity to fully realize its benefits with few adverse consequences.
As of right now, I do not think any opposition to AI will actually benefit workers in any way -- the most likely outcome would be that huge media companies end up being the only people able to effectively use the technology, which will result in most of the job eliminations we would hope to prevent happening anyways. It's a fight between media companies wanting stronger copyright (look up the Mickey Mouse curve -- we're due for another expansion of copyright) and tech companies wanting to sell ridiculously overpriced cloud services, and regular artists don't get a seat at this table under our current system.
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But it comes close, which makes it a useful tool. A programmer can get it to generate some code, then they go through and make sure it's good. I've used it for that, there was one problem it wasn't able to help me solve, but there was another problem where it probably saved me a good hour or two (probably more if I lost focus because of untreated ADHD) of trying to find if someone else had my specific problem or else breaking the problem down to more generic problems.
Similar goes for art. Artists can use an AI generated image as a base and work from there.