Good post by David Golumbia on ChatGPT and how miserable it all is :rat-salute-2:

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Actually, Marxists should let capitalists do all the bad things and never oppose them.

    V I Lenin

    • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      You don’t need to aid the capitalists in automating things or monopolizing things, they will do it on their own no matter what you do.

      The solution however is not for the dispossessed petty bourgeois to implement anti-trust and freeze capitalism in place, not is the solution for the unemployed workers to destroy technology through Luddite reaction. These are both failed and doomed strategies. They are ultimately reactionary, in that they refuse to deal with the progression and development of society and seek to freeze it in place forever (not even possible, it will fail).

      The solution is to organize the dispossessed and unemployed into seizing these monopolies and automated technologies for themselves and cut the reactionary idealist shit that completely ignores the trends of capitalism and historical materialism and development

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Why would the dispossessed masses ever join with the communists to sieze the means of production if the communists haven't taken the time to articulate their better world? Nobody will want to be our friends if we just reject all critique and say "artists losing their jobs is good actually"

        • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          You don’t have to say workers or artists losing their jobs is good.

          You say “artists losing their jobs is the inevitable consequence of our capitalist society. Let’s seize the automation and share it among ourselves, and use these productive forces for the good of all humankind instead of just a small clique of owners”

          The difference is important, because your proposed solution is a dead end doomed to failure and people will stop listening to communists if your solution is Luddism that fails over and over. You just want to ban AI within the context of capitalism to ameliorate harm within capitalism temporarily. Someone else in another capitalist nation will just surpass you and do it anyway. You will become obsolete and stuck in old technology while the world moves on without you, and you will be frozen in a less advanced form of capitalism still, until it buckles because other capitalists are outcompeting you.

          • ssjmarx [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            your proposed solution

            I never proposed a solution, aside from a post-revolutionary hypothetical in another branch of this comment tree. I took issue with what I percieved to be the assertion that Marxists shouldn't analyse and complain about things.