I'm planning to move my last install from Manjaro to Fedora. I originally moved from Arch to Manjaro because I wanted to cut the tedium of installation and have something more stable while still having fresh packages.
I found that Manjaro releases aren't even that fast, and their "more stable repositories" are just a clunky layer between the Arch repos with less eyes than I'd like on them. I've also encountered too many other clunky and obnoxious things from them to say their usability improvements are competetive with more mainstream distros. My little tray update informer just died once because the developer shut the server down and that was it. Apparently they were hosting it themselves and not the project? I also forgot to explicitly use their CLI scripts to update my kernel several times, and has had the graphics drivers (which are compiled for specific kernels) get dropped from the repository, which blocks updates until I manually remove my GPU drivers and drop into a shell to update everything - that was a real fun one the first time.
The laptop embezzlement debacle was also really something. Their homepage is also filled with sponsored boutique computers. I don't see a distro raising money as an intrinsically horrible thing, but they're really in-your-face about it considering their financial track record.
Fedora isn't perfect - it is controlled by a giant corporation that has way too much sway over the Linux ecosystem, and they practically use the userbase as testers for emerging technologies they eventually want to put into their paid distribution. I get what I want out of it, though. Pretty fresh packages with a lot of eyes on them, and new technologies out of the box: Wayland, Pipewire, and Btrfs are defaults, and not alternatives like in an Arch install guide.
it is controlled by a giant corporation that has way too much sway over the Linux ecosystem, and they practically use the userbase as testers for emerging technologies they eventually want to put into their paid distribution.
Red Hat: the giant corporation that has too much influence over the linux ecosystem and uses the userbase as testers except the technology they're pushing is actually good !!!!!! :fishe:
Didn't really know about any of that stuff, I guess I'll just suffer through installing Arch next time then. I had a really good experience with Manjaro so far tho.
Also GPU drivers were always a huge pain in any distro as far as I recall.
Rolling releases are cool but I don't miss that manual installation at all. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with what Manjaro is trying to do - their maintainers are just bad. There's other Arch derivatives and bleeding edge distros out there for sure. I just don't have any experience with them.
Also GPU drivers were always a huge pain in any distro as far as I recall.
:torvalds-nvidia: User error honestly, but I've never had another distro that didn't just upgrade the kernel at some point in the normal cycle. I kept forgetting about their kernel selection script and it wasn't really the driver's fault.
I'm planning to move my last install from Manjaro to Fedora. I originally moved from Arch to Manjaro because I wanted to cut the tedium of installation and have something more stable while still having fresh packages.
I found that Manjaro releases aren't even that fast, and their "more stable repositories" are just a clunky layer between the Arch repos with less eyes than I'd like on them. I've also encountered too many other clunky and obnoxious things from them to say their usability improvements are competetive with more mainstream distros. My little tray update informer just died once because the developer shut the server down and that was it. Apparently they were hosting it themselves and not the project? I also forgot to explicitly use their CLI scripts to update my kernel several times, and has had the graphics drivers (which are compiled for specific kernels) get dropped from the repository, which blocks updates until I manually remove my GPU drivers and drop into a shell to update everything - that was a real fun one the first time.
The laptop embezzlement debacle was also really something. Their homepage is also filled with sponsored boutique computers. I don't see a distro raising money as an intrinsically horrible thing, but they're really in-your-face about it considering their financial track record.
Fedora isn't perfect - it is controlled by a giant corporation that has way too much sway over the Linux ecosystem, and they practically use the userbase as testers for emerging technologies they eventually want to put into their paid distribution. I get what I want out of it, though. Pretty fresh packages with a lot of eyes on them, and new technologies out of the box: Wayland, Pipewire, and Btrfs are defaults, and not alternatives like in an Arch install guide.
You just described Canonical :peltier-laugh:
Yeah but at least red hat is pushing flatpaks instead of snaps :disgost:
Red Hat: the giant corporation that has too much influence over the linux ecosystem and uses the userbase as testers except the technology they're pushing is actually good !!!!!! :fishe:
honestly, I'm all for it.
Didn't really know about any of that stuff, I guess I'll just suffer through installing Arch next time then. I had a really good experience with Manjaro so far tho.
Also GPU drivers were always a huge pain in any distro as far as I recall.
Rolling releases are cool but I don't miss that manual installation at all. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with what Manjaro is trying to do - their maintainers are just bad. There's other Arch derivatives and bleeding edge distros out there for sure. I just don't have any experience with them.
:torvalds-nvidia: User error honestly, but I've never had another distro that didn't just upgrade the kernel at some point in the normal cycle. I kept forgetting about their kernel selection script and it wasn't really the driver's fault.
not practically, that is 100% literally what fedora is for