• z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    People are so scared of a Trump presidency, and rightly so. But let's say Biden gets elected, and finally, somehow magically, Trump just disappears and his followers quietly dissipate into the ether?

    Do you really think the next election we won't be complaining about the exact same shit? Fascism vs Declining Capitalism (AKA, Good Cop Fascism)?

    This is your lives now folks, every four years, choose your flavor of Fascism, they certainly look different, but once you put them in your mouth, they all taste like the same shit.

    Elect your Biden, and then don't criticize your government, and get the fuck back to work and don't protest and keep your heads down and your mouth shut.

    Then four years later, compromise and vote for the lesser of two evils that somehow gets more evil every four years. That is all of us now. I'd say see you in hell, but we're already here.

    • theareciboincident@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      7 months ago

      vote for the lesser of two evils that somehow gets more evil every four years

      Fucking THANK YOU for saying this. I’ve struggled a lot with this rude awakening, that liberals will put on a smile and pretend they’re good people while stabbing you in the back.

      You can see it in their responses, they just hysterically repeat over and over - “how could you possibly not like Biden, are you some kind of fascist? Look at the enemy!!!”

      Meanwhile they continue to let fascists pillage the nation, commit open terrorism, attempt a violent overthrow of the government with no consequences (who called off the national guard? Who set skeleton crew police lines? Who GAVE TOURS TO FASCIST GROUPS BEFORE THE COUP? who was texting locations of congress members to the mob?).

      They talk so much about how Biden will fight Trump.

      What the fuck were Democrats doing during Trump? Laying back and enjoying the donations rolling in.

      Oh waah the blues had no majority waaaah. Funny how there’s always an excuse why Blues couldn’t help the people while Republicans could be outnumbered 2:1 and still shut down the government on a whim.

      • hglman@lemmy.ml
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        7 months ago

        It's always an excuse, some complicated subtle political reasons. No, I'm sorry when you don't actually have morals and constantly compromise or find money for war you are part of the problem. The Dems are part the problem.

      • crusa187@lemmy.ml
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        6 months ago

        Pretty much. “Not trump” is such an incredibly low bar, it shouldn’t even be a consideration. Yet this is Biden’s core campaign strategy, again. He’s shown he’d rather beat and incarcerate peaceful dissenters than engage with them in good faith compromise. This is reflected by the rabid Blue MAGA supporters who start frothing at the mouth about how you’re a Trump voter just because you point out factual observations concerning Biden. It’s a wild form of cognitive dissonance, but I guess this is what you get after 50 years of unrelenting propaganda.

    • d-RLY?@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      Very true. I was a freshmen in high school when the clusterfuck that was the W v Gore election. Which was basically the first election I kind of followed with the new interest of someone that would be able to vote the next time. And of course 9/11 and Iraq were very big moments to see happening. They were the points in my youth where picking a side kind of mattered. Seeing the massive shift from blind support (which hit lots of us) to the massive condemnations of what the results were. Seeing the very people that were so "USA USA #1!!!" tripping over themselves to send people to die, then turn into smug fucks about how stupid the Republicans are and getting photo-ops to be seen as "anti-war."

      Then 2008 shit really hit hard. The system was beginning to show even more of us in my age range the grift it was. Seeing so many peoples' lives fucked up, and seeing how just getting gas with my part-time minimum wage jobs would take so much while in school (I am forever grateful and lucky that I have the family help I had even though my parents were working class). But even after the massive protests over the wars and the financial crash, the same assholes just let the ones that created and directly aided the rich fucks that made it happen were let off. We have so many people that get life or even the death penalty for so much less harm. But these rich fucks and their paid for politicians just don't even try anymore. And we are groomed to just give up after maybe some large marches and speeches. To not push farther with demands, and if we start to they do a full push to present only out of the way and per-approved "peaceful protests" as "valid" and "correct."

      Every election since the 2000 elections has been presented as life and death. It is always "too important a cycle" to be "allowed" to voice support of third parties. Abortion was always on the line. Civil rights movements from the past had their guts removed and whitewashed to fit the narrative of liberalism and even super right of centre conservatives. And yet the liberals/centrists after gaslighting about how "important" the shit was, then immediately won't shut the fuck up about how "important" bipartisan shit is and why they aren't putting any fight to protect those same things they yelled at us about. So are the conservatives/Republicans fascists that WILL take away all our freedoms? Or are they "really nice people" that make bipartisanship so fucking "important?"

      Now that abortion and the civil rights of LGBTQIA+ folks were not protected, AND we are seeing more and more kids in cages along with a fucking genocide. We are STILL being told that the Blue Team is somehow the "good guys" and that the Republicans are the ones that WILL do all those same fucking things...but worse. It is infuriating that they are still trying to push the voters to just STFU and go with it instead of doing what voters are demanding. They act like the election is next week or something without time to change course. We are already being called "Trump supporters" for speaking our minds when there is literally so much fucking time to win votes. They only know how to be the "victims" and fake concerns for media spots, and are furious it isn't just working. Fuck all of them!

      • ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml
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        6 months ago

        Their rhetoric has always been to point out things that the republicans would do that the democrats supposedly wouldn't, but now that the democrats have let minority rights get taken away, have become basically as xenophobic and anti migrants as the republicans and are willing complicit of a NAZI style genocide, they ran out of any apparent differences to point to and are reduced to either lie and pretend that the republicans are going to do things that nothing indicate they will, at least not in the next 4 years, like how they keep saying that trump will somehow make himself a dictator for life, or, admit that the democrats are doing everything the republicans are hated for, but insist that the republicans would do them worst somehow.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    7 months ago

    It's completely normal to make the DNC online only to avoid protests. That happens every time. Nothing to see here, folks. Just move along. There's never actually been one that was in-person. What are you talking about?

  • Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    If someone could answer, I would love to know what the plan is when Biden wins the election but Trump just decides to not accept the results and take power by force? What's the plan when the cops, the courts, and the military don't stop him? I truly, truly hope the answers are not "vote" or "just accept it".

    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      In 2020 this was possible because Trump was president at the time so he had power. It did not happen. After throwing a tantrum Trump didn't try to order the government to defend him, just his jan6 mob.

      Right now Trump is not president so he cannot abuse powers to try what he didn't try back then.

    • huf [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      what's wrong with just accepting it? capital did fine under trump's first presidency, why should they worry? either one of these decomposing mummies would be fine in the big chair.