They claim to have recovered from ML brain rot themselves, and they’re here to save me from the only socialist tradition yet to bear fruit.
Lemmy.ml won’t allow me to write a new reply to the thread, so here you go:
Ok, then I commiserate with you for taking time for trying to understand the texts and not getting the point. The one major contribution of Marx to social sciences that has been consistently proven correct is that, given a social structure that generates social classes with unequality of power, the dominant class will have a strong tendency to stack the cards in their favor and promote their own interests. The leninist state creates a social structure that divides between workers and bureaucrats (or party intelligentsia), as the bureaucrats control the means of production, the law, the military and the police, which means that the bureaucrats have a vested interest in strengthening the state and class divisions, instituting privileges for themselves, keeping the workers in check, and absolutely not to let the state “wither away”. Look at the states that constituted themselves following the leninist model and you’ll find that they have, consistently, through the decades, doubled down on authoritarism, repressed worker unions, and more often than not, brought back capitalism (and privatizing the assets of the state for their own gain), most especially after the initial generation of revolutionaries died or lost enough influence. Marx and Engels envisioned the dictatorship of the proletariat as a short transitional period where workers would have authority over previously existing social classes, not the abomination that turned out to be North Korea.
And now, let your brain work on trying to justify the unspeakable crimes of these states against their own workers, and deny the undeniable evidence that those states are not withering away, because you’re suffering the rot of falling enamoured with red fascism, and you have to find the circle quadrature to satisfy your own cognitive dissonance’s demands, and because you don’t yet really understand that you can be radically communist and still acknowledge that leninism is a dead route for worker emancipation. I know because I suffered that brain rot, too, so here’s the good news: if you’re lucky, you’ll get freed from it some day, and then you’ll thank me, but I won’t be there to see it. I won’t be responding to any further messages.
Exactly, once these people can show us a better alternative that actually gets anything accomplished, we'll be glad to talk about it.
Don't you know (from lemmy memes comm which desperately needs to have better moderation team):
I love how anarchists inevitably pull this trope out as if its some kind of an own. It's like our ideology would've worked so great if only we lived in a perfect world where there was no conflict. These projects are short lived because ultimately they're not able to defend themselves, and anarchist refuse to acknowledge this lesson, so they just complain how unfair life is.
My dude but we don't want short lived communism
But, but PURITY.