That's cool they took an interest in it and brought up the concept of the bottom becoming the master by rejecting it. That's a veey dialectical idea I think many would struggle with, at least when put in abstracted philosophical terms of like the negation of the negation or the unity of opposites. I'm curious about your critique of the bottom becoming the master? You called it fraught.
Sorry I was more referring to "personifying" the roles is fraught. Like, the master and the slave aren't people. Some insights may be made by putting yourself in one or the other role and switching between them, but I don't think we can really understand how these theories are internally consistent parts of a larger analytical framework by making them less abstract. It also might open the door to some personal bias sneaking into the method, as I draw conclusions based on "my experience as master and/or slave". We can't remove our selves from our thinking, but we can use caution. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree
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That's cool they took an interest in it and brought up the concept of the bottom becoming the master by rejecting it. That's a veey dialectical idea I think many would struggle with, at least when put in abstracted philosophical terms of like the negation of the negation or the unity of opposites. I'm curious about your critique of the bottom becoming the master? You called it fraught.
Sorry I was more referring to "personifying" the roles is fraught. Like, the master and the slave aren't people. Some insights may be made by putting yourself in one or the other role and switching between them, but I don't think we can really understand how these theories are internally consistent parts of a larger analytical framework by making them less abstract. It also might open the door to some personal bias sneaking into the method, as I draw conclusions based on "my experience as master and/or slave". We can't remove our selves from our thinking, but we can use caution. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree
No I see your point, I agree that personifying it into individuals is problematic theoretically and practically.