At a hospital again. I woke up to stinky meat next to me. They told me they don't have vegan food. They're very ostensibly rude about this. Had to listen to a long tirade from the room"mate" about how carnism is natural.
I'm in a lot of pain which makes me really irritable. I really didn't need to be made to gag with the meat.
Last time I was in a hospital they would throw meat into my food as well making sure it touched everything so I wasn't able to eat the veggies without the corpse taste.
I don't get why people are so malicious about it. I'm trying not to cry not to give them satisfaction. I am vegan for moral reasons. This is extremely uncomfortable.
What, they don't have oatmeal? PB&J? Broccoli? A banana? Not that you don't deserve actual food, but they're saying they "don't have" vegan food? They're full of shit.
Yea, it doesn't make sense. I thankfully got a banana yesterday which I didn't eat so I got to eat something today. They could've brought me any fruit or vegetable. They didn't bring anything. I hope I get out quick...
I hope you do too! I don't suppose there's any way you could order something to be delivered?
I can't move at all and it's a huge hospital. It's also getting very late. I think I'll just sleep on my banana. I appreciate all the supportive people but I'm very tired, too tired to deal with this. I'll try to sleep.
I am sorry to hear that your dietary choices are not being respected by the hospital staff.
What country are you in? I would have assumed hospitals in most developed countries should be able to cater to different dietary needs. What would they do if someone had a sever allergic reaction to certain ingredients? Tell them to just starve?
I don't have anything helpful to say. Hope you get better soon.
I am in a western country. The issue isn't capability. The issue is the people being malicious.
It does matter. In the uk being vegan is a protected trait and they have a legal obligation to not force you to change your morals. unlike what others have said vegetarian isn't a protected trait and gets less protection.
Bloodmouths know that they're wrong and lash out at you for making them feel bad. That's it.
I wish carnists would stop brigading vegan spaces. The downvotes are fucked up.
They probably saw this in the /all feed and, like the hospital staff, were compelled to lash out at us. Downvoting us is a cope.
They're brigading this post hard. I'm gonna commit the heinous act of eating a banana (which I thankfully got yesterday). 🍌
Im really thankful for you being here. 🥺 I am literally too vulnerable for this crap.
I wish they didn't have power over me at my most vulnerable. Some people here are very malicious. I hope they don't hurt me more than they already had. I don't get why people in healthcare are so frequently either angels or sadists.
Working in healthcare is dehumanizing and traumatic, workers cope with this in often unhealthy ways. It's like this:
The overworked hospital staff sees your veganism as a direct insult because they are bloodmouths, so they lash out. As far as they're concerned you're rubbing your moral superiority in their faces by asking them to put in extra work to accommodate you. So, they get petty revenge to "put you in your place".
Being a bloodmouth requires constant personal upkeep in the face of veganism. This helps them protect their fragile egos and sooth their guilt.
"It's natural" is such a weak argument, plenty of bad things are found abundantly in nature. Disease, cannibalism, ionizing radiation. All extremely natural
If you're complaining about something being "unnatural" from a hospital bed I have some bad news for you.
I don't even care about the argument much. I find it ridiculous that growing up people get told to eat more veggies and fruit, because it's healthy for you, but then you get scrutinized for doing so. And how come a hospital has no such healthy food? Is meat ham and cow yoghurt really good for someone recovering? I have a hard time believing they're particularly nutritious. Idk if it's just me but I always saw ham as poverty meat as afaik it's made of the worst parts of the corpse.
in my head, it would only make sense for it to "help you recover" if the type of damage you had was physical as youd typically have enough protein to aid in recovery.
A very positive update:
I was given food and it was vegan. :)
I wasn't given a venflon in spite of my allergy and was correctly given oral medicine.
I was also told by the doctor I am of course allowed to walk, so I can go to the toilet. According to him I was allowed the entire time.
I am scared they'll return in the evening, but for now it's good.
I sincerely deeply thank everyone who was supportive in the very tough time I went through yesterday.
I'll probably make a formal complaint once I am out of the hospital. I am scared they'd retailiate if I said anything while I'm still here.
When I saw the title, I thought this was going to be about medicine, which is a bit more complicated discussion.
But yeah, this is clear cut and fucked up.
I find some of the responses here disturbing. I was told of making conspiracy theorists by a person making up fantasy about me being abusive! Based on absolutely nothing. I am incredibly patient and polite towards anyone, going out of my way to thank the staff who help me. I believe people like such are literally dangerous as you promote attack on me while I'm so vulnerable for no reason other than your fantasy.
Update regarding the staff:
They threatened me with using needles in spite of my allergy. I wasn't given any food after the surgery the entire day, so I was really lucky to had saved a banana, which they didn't know of and is not sufficient meal for an entire day, especially after a heavy surgery.
Those people don't seem to be nurses in the entire sense either. They don't do the needles. They sent another person to do so. I spoke with said person and he agreed I shouldn't be given a venflon and told me to administer medicine orally, and that he will tell them to do so.
I was refused help to stand up since I haven't stood up on my own since the surgery, but needed to go to the bathroom. I was told I'm not allowed to stand up. No help for bathroom was provided, even to do the do in the bed, which I think is humiliating and deeply unkind towards the other patient in the room. So the indirect result is I'm literally expected to poo directly in the bed onto it.
While I understand why people suggest a lawyer, I don't have the financial means and I'm suffering physically in the now. I consider discharging myself because I believe this is deep medical neglect, and I feel like my life is being endangered. I am scared I won't be able to hold it in and the bacteria would infect my wounds. Not to mention the lack of nutrition affecting healing.
Preface: Australian, may not be helpful for other countries
Do you have anybody who can sneak food in for you? I had a friend in ICU who was refused vegan food. I visited them and found out they hadn't eaten, so I head to the nearest store and get them food and smuggle it in (as well as their meds they were refused access to).
It was also the case that in their file they were not marked as vegan despite telling all the doctors and nurses. I had to suss out the treating doctor as they were the only one who could add that to the file, but even then they thought it meant "veggo" (Vegeterian) and that ultimately didn't fix the issue. So it could be the case that you haven't told the right person? I understand it's stupid that you have to go through all this effort, but don't give out hope as it might be a management issue stopping you from getting food.
