What you have to remember is that all cause mortality from air borne respiratory disease went down because of those zero COVID policies. Masking and staying home and aggressive testing prevents everything else from killing people too, many of those excess deaths can be attributed to other less deadly infections that had also been suppressed by China efforts. Immunity debt might play a role as well, as people who have not been exposed to years of new flu variants suddenly get slammed. I'm not willing to say that all excess mortality is from COVID.
Though it could very well be higher than what is reported, same as it is in every country. No one wants to admit COVID isn't over.
60,000 just isn’t a realistic number of deaths on that scale.
Maybe, but a number several orders of magnitude larger is also hard to believe. The true number could be higher, just like it probably is in every country, but a cover up of that scale would be hard to achieve. At most I can believe half a million i.e. about one order of magnitude.
I'm deciding that the real number might be as far off the official number in China as it is in every other developed country. I don't think there's any developed country that has a coverup on this scale. You aren't talking about something that is "same as everywhere really", you're suggesting something totally unique that applies only to China.
The only way this would possibly work is if COVID testing is never done on hospitalized patients who show symptoms or none is ever done afterwards to determine cause of death, and so hundreds of thousands of people are just dying from what would essentially be unknown causes without any specific viral agent being identified. That is absolutely a coverup!
Excess death stats, right?
What you have to remember is that all cause mortality from air borne respiratory disease went down because of those zero COVID policies. Masking and staying home and aggressive testing prevents everything else from killing people too, many of those excess deaths can be attributed to other less deadly infections that had also been suppressed by China efforts. Immunity debt might play a role as well, as people who have not been exposed to years of new flu variants suddenly get slammed. I'm not willing to say that all excess mortality is from COVID.
Though it could very well be higher than what is reported, same as it is in every country. No one wants to admit COVID isn't over.
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Maybe, but a number several orders of magnitude larger is also hard to believe. The true number could be higher, just like it probably is in every country, but a cover up of that scale would be hard to achieve. At most I can believe half a million i.e. about one order of magnitude.
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Official government stats aren't vibes.
Also, no one counting is a coverup, same as it is in the US and every other country that isn't properly testing to keep their numbers down.
The scale of this coverup is just so much larger than everyone else in the world, which is what makes it hard to believe.
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I'm deciding that the real number might be as far off the official number in China as it is in every other developed country. I don't think there's any developed country that has a coverup on this scale. You aren't talking about something that is "same as everywhere really", you're suggesting something totally unique that applies only to China.
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The only way this would possibly work is if COVID testing is never done on hospitalized patients who show symptoms or none is ever done afterwards to determine cause of death, and so hundreds of thousands of people are just dying from what would essentially be unknown causes without any specific viral agent being identified. That is absolutely a coverup!
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