your argument wasn't that it was impossible on most computers (I've already agreed that it's only possible on certain devices released after the point where BIOS flashing protection became widespread), it was that
it has not been possible to overwrite a bios chip without an external programmer since like 2006
and even if you update that to 2011, it's entirely possible to do on certain systems manufactured after that date using exploits
your argument wasn't that it was impossible on most computers
No. This is not at all what I have been speaking about. In my original post I said that most computers have hardware backdoors and that IME is one example. You said that IME can be neutered. I have been describing to you why that is impractical. I also said that we don't know if the ME neuter is even safe. I have been speaking in terms of practicality. My post from the very start describes how difficult it is to use me_cleaner. I mentioned that it was something that I have actually done myself using an external flasher. I spoke from my own personal experience to say how impractical it would be to expect any other person to use me_cleaner. It is extremely difficult to use me_cleaner by an external flasher. It is extremely difficulty or impossible in most circumstances to use me_cleaner by internal flasher. I would be surprised if there was 1 other person on hexbear who has actually used me_cleaner. I hope you try it.
No. This is not at all what I have been speaking about.
I quoted you directly claiming that it was impossible; I'm not sure how else to interpret "it has not been possible to overwrite a bios chip without an external programmer since like 2006"
we don’t know if the ME neuter is even safe
no, but it's certainly worth noting that various US three-letter agencies seem to think so, considering they told Intel to include a hidden kill switch
I hope you try it
I have, without using an external programmer, on a computer released after 2011
your argument wasn't that it was impossible on most computers (I've already agreed that it's only possible on certain devices released after the point where BIOS flashing protection became widespread), it was that
and even if you update that to 2011, it's entirely possible to do on certain systems manufactured after that date using exploits
No. This is not at all what I have been speaking about. In my original post I said that most computers have hardware backdoors and that IME is one example. You said that IME can be neutered. I have been describing to you why that is impractical. I also said that we don't know if the ME neuter is even safe. I have been speaking in terms of practicality. My post from the very start describes how difficult it is to use me_cleaner. I mentioned that it was something that I have actually done myself using an external flasher. I spoke from my own personal experience to say how impractical it would be to expect any other person to use me_cleaner. It is extremely difficult to use me_cleaner by an external flasher. It is extremely difficulty or impossible in most circumstances to use me_cleaner by internal flasher. I would be surprised if there was 1 other person on hexbear who has actually used me_cleaner. I hope you try it.
I quoted you directly claiming that it was impossible; I'm not sure how else to interpret "it has not been possible to overwrite a bios chip without an external programmer since like 2006"
no, but it's certainly worth noting that various US three-letter agencies seem to think so, considering they told Intel to include a hidden kill switch
I have, without using an external programmer, on a computer released after 2011