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        • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          the patriot act was the exact same justification, but this is somehow justified

          This is the last and only thing I think should be mentioned. You miss or should I say refuse to acknowledge, right at the start, the fact that this isn't the only thing China's doing to counter extremism in Xinjiang.

          If China did literally nothing else but pass a major surveillance law that achieves literaly nothing like the Patriot act then yes you'd have a point. But no, in the US case is not at all similar. The extremism isn't native to Xinjiang, it was imported from groups like ETIM and then also exported to others through ISIS.

          You said you were familiar with the details, this realy looks like you didn't even know the basic facts about terrorism in Xinjiang. Congrats you got me to actualy link you an article

            • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              A literal reddit clown.

              "I wont watch the documentary that shows the real videos from the attacks, with interviews from Muslim leaders from Xinjiang and the terrorists in prison."

              "I wont read your article because its too old."

              I regret ever engaging with this shit. Wait until you find out the first attacks in Xinjiang started in 90s rofl.

        • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          It is justified because it worked to save lives. We aren't mad at the patriot act because it violated liberal values. We are mad because it kills people. It is kinda wild to me that you can see a good outcome and a bad outcome and not be able to tell which is better

            • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Accept we don't know what any of these terms mean. Tell me what could it have been? How do you know it would have worked? You admit you didn't have the basic facts of the matter earlier and now you want me to consider you analysis? No, I dismiss you out of hand. You have made very many assumptions and there is no need for me to consider them.

              I really don't know why you feel like checking if phones had a Koran on them was a huge invasion of privacy. They are Muslim of corse they had a koran. What of the information misused? Do you have any reason to belive it was misused? What if they only searched for copies of the Koran you get from US backed groups? Do you know? You do not. We can't know from the available data.

              The data we can observe is that the US funds terrorism in the same region in the same way it has in the 80s. Then also that you feel like a group trying to make this better is suspect because they didn'tuse methods US liberals would condone? You are unserious.