The new OUN-B leader has finished his tour of the US in Philadelphia where he visited a 30 year old memorial to the 🇺🇦division of the Nazi Waffen-SS that has apparently flown under the radar since it was established in 1993 to mark the 50th anniversary of the “Galician Division.”
St Mary's in Elkin Park. Also known as Fox Chase Cemetery, Elkins Park, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, USA
“Adventurism” is limited to stuff that will pull people out of organising for years (or indefinitely) for less value than that person would have been performing smaller acts in the same time frame.
You don't think cops and prosecutors would throw the book at someone defacing/destroying a "war memorial"? This is over property most people don't even know about, too; it's not equivalent to punching a Nazi out in public.
However you view adventurism, "make it something worth the trouble" applies.
Taking down fascist shit is not adventurism. Stop calling it adventurism. This expansion of the term to include mundane things that people will not get caught for is just a suppression of direct actions that are small enough for the individual to take independently.
You are going to get in far more trouble for breaking a fascist's face, you should still do it.
Adventurism is is characterized by "[having no] stable or serious principles, programme, tactics, organisation, and no roots among the masses." A person or small group defacing some fascist memorial is the definition of adventurism -- where are the serious principles or program, the organization, the tactics to translate that action into something meaningful? Where are the roots among the masses for that person and a few folks they hope they can trust?
And again, I'm not saying to never do anything without the sign off of a large vanguard party. I'm saying make it something worth the trouble. If someone's really certain they won't get caught defacing this shit, then it's no trouble, so go right ahead. But no one thinks they'll get caught, so if you're going to gamble, at least do it with something that matters more.
You are going to get in far more trouble for breaking a fascist’s face
Surprisingly, this isn't always the case. It depends on the jurisdiction, but the penalties for vandalism can jump pretty high if the damage is expensive enough or if you're damaging a memorial (I know at least one state makes the latter a felony). A sucker punch Richard Spencer-style is generally a misdemeanor. The sucker punch is probably going to play better for you in front of a jury, too.
It really doesn't, it depends on the fascist's willingness to pursue it vs their extreme embarassment for having the cops deal with it because they got their ass beat by the (supposedly) weak feminine soy people. Our ability to get away with it relies entirely on the shame of the fascists, unless of course they'd been committing assaults too at the time in which case they may not try their luck with law enforcement for that reason instead.
The sucker punch is probably going to play better for you in front of a jury, too.
Punching someone in the face isn't a jury case in most of the world. Certainly not over here. Holding jury cases for every instance of assault would be completely overwhelming there's 2 or 3 per weekend night per nightclub. Do you really do jury cases for things like this over there?
You don't think cops and prosecutors would throw the book at someone defacing/destroying a "war memorial"? This is over property most people don't even know about, too; it's not equivalent to punching a Nazi out in public.
However you view adventurism, "make it something worth the trouble" applies.
Taking down fascist shit is not adventurism. Stop calling it adventurism. This expansion of the term to include mundane things that people will not get caught for is just a suppression of direct actions that are small enough for the individual to take independently.
You are going to get in far more trouble for breaking a fascist's face, you should still do it.
Adventurism is is characterized by "[having no] stable or serious principles, programme, tactics, organisation, and no roots among the masses." A person or small group defacing some fascist memorial is the definition of adventurism -- where are the serious principles or program, the organization, the tactics to translate that action into something meaningful? Where are the roots among the masses for that person and a few folks they hope they can trust?
And again, I'm not saying to never do anything without the sign off of a large vanguard party. I'm saying make it something worth the trouble. If someone's really certain they won't get caught defacing this shit, then it's no trouble, so go right ahead. But no one thinks they'll get caught, so if you're going to gamble, at least do it with something that matters more.
Surprisingly, this isn't always the case. It depends on the jurisdiction, but the penalties for vandalism can jump pretty high if the damage is expensive enough or if you're damaging a memorial (I know at least one state makes the latter a felony). A sucker punch Richard Spencer-style is generally a misdemeanor. The sucker punch is probably going to play better for you in front of a jury, too.
It really doesn't, it depends on the fascist's willingness to pursue it vs their extreme embarassment for having the cops deal with it because they got their ass beat by the (supposedly) weak feminine soy people. Our ability to get away with it relies entirely on the shame of the fascists, unless of course they'd been committing assaults too at the time in which case they may not try their luck with law enforcement for that reason instead.
Punching someone in the face isn't a jury case in most of the world. Certainly not over here. Holding jury cases for every instance of assault would be completely overwhelming there's 2 or 3 per weekend night per nightclub. Do you really do jury cases for things like this over there?