The loss that he describes is deeper and more existential than anything academic integrity can protect: a specific, if perhaps decaying, way of being among students and their teachers. “AI has already changed the classroom into something I no longer recognize,” he told me. In this view, AI isn’t a harbinger of the future but the last straw in a profession that was almost lost already, to funding collapse, gun violence, state overreach, economic decay, credentialism, and all the rest. New technology arrives on that grim shore, making schoolwork feel worthless, carried out to turn the crank of a machine rather than for teaching or learning.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Could have homework be a "club", where students do their assignments in the library and receive a signature of supervision.

    Or could just stop having essay homework.

    • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]
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      2 years ago

      Writing is a technology that restructures thought, comrade. Doing writing that reflects on your own writing needs to be the new norm since that's what's actually valuable (hot take).

      However to do the reflective writing you have to attempt "normal" writing which is where the friction and at times feelings of meaninglessness set in.

      Metacognition(as we call it in the biz) has always been the real purpose of good writing instruction, but the fact is you can't just reflect on... Nothing.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I'm not suggesting you stop doing essay work, but that it simply no longer gets done as homework.

        • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]
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          2 years ago

          Ah I misread. Yes, that's definitely one possibility. However I think that making everything graded "in class" has its own flaws, it could definitely reduce the problem

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          • Awoo [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Put a "% of work submitted written by AI" on the final grades. Grading would then look like:

            A* 92%

            B 14%

            A 79%

            C 0%

            Let universities and future employers figure out what they want to do with that information.

            • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]
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              2 years ago

              If I had my way my class would just be pass/no pass and I'd just leave students helpful comments to help them grow as writers instead of having to fine-tune grades on a scale. What's the actual difference between an 89 and 90? Nothing really but it's huge for a student's GPA. Really annoying.

              • Awoo [she/her]
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                2 years ago

                Oh I agree, the difference doesn't exist for students it exists for unis/employers though right? They're the ones that want that granularity.

    • Blep [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Arent those just tutorials? You have a small section of the class, usually like 20 people going over some aspect of the course material. Sometimes including attendance or quiz marks.

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