I watched the Rammstein meeting , which was quite interesting. My notes, with my commentary typically in the brackets:
0:30 Denmark and Netherlands to lead task force to train Ukrainian F16 pilots (Norway Belgium Portugal Poland confirmed contributing)
1:10 Methods for long term sustainment of continued support discussed. (industrial initiatives and production of equipment - the west has run out or getting close?)
1:50 Leopard Tanks Consortium working to maintain their support "for years to come" (implying this will go on for several years)
8:15 Ukraine is a "lethal airspace" (reason for not sending US planes - they'll be shot down)
10:40 Russia has 1000+ fighter aircraft which is too many for us to fight in the air, this is why the US supplied lower cost ground anti-air (cost effectiveness)
10:50 It's going to take a considerable length of time to build a Ukrainian air force that is the size and scope and scale that will be necessary (implying that they plan to)
15:10 Sometimes it sounds like Ukraine is losing in these meetings but that's not the case (casualties caused to Russia used as excuse)
17:00 The rules we have agreed are "do not use US supplied equipment to attack into the geographic space of Russia" - avoids answering whether the Belgorod attack was US supplied equipment
21:45 The US defaulting on its debt would have very significant national security consequences
22:35 interesting questions) What is the strategy? To help Ukraine win a decisive victory or to just get them a better hand at the negotiating table?
Boring answer we're just providing them what they need, "we'll let the ukrainians decide what their goals are".
Henry Kissinger recently said both Russia and Ukraine will have to give up territory in any deal. Both will be dissatisfied. And war could erupt again because Ukraine is being so heavily armed and they have "the least experienced strategically experienced team in europe" (General Milley is forced to stifle a smirk at this comment 23:12)
Milley Thanks for asking a very easy question for me, from Henry Kissinger. (massive sarcasm)
Russia will not get their strategic objectives: Conquering Ukraine, capturing Kiev, the end of the Zelensky government. (these weren't the goals that Russia laid out, he is repeating the made up goals the US substituted)
Ukraine will not get their strategic objectives in the near term: To liberate all of occupied Ukraine
Fighting will continue until a negotiated settlement or fighting coming to a indeterminate conclusion in the future. (implication here being that the fighting will only stop with a negotiated settlement)
Most interesting takeaways are the west recognising they have a long term production problem with equipment. The debt default being potentially catastrophic. And Milley's smirking and inability to hide his inner thoughts regarding the Kissinger question implying that Kissinger is probably completely correct about it.
EDIT: Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck this is the wrong thread how can you fuckers upvote me like this without telling me it's supposed to be in the news mega.
I watched the Rammstein meeting , which was quite interesting. My notes, with my commentary typically in the brackets:
0:30 Denmark and Netherlands to lead task force to train Ukrainian F16 pilots (Norway Belgium Portugal Poland confirmed contributing)
1:10 Methods for long term sustainment of continued support discussed. (industrial initiatives and production of equipment - the west has run out or getting close?)
1:50 Leopard Tanks Consortium working to maintain their support "for years to come" (implying this will go on for several years)
8:15 Ukraine is a "lethal airspace" (reason for not sending US planes - they'll be shot down)
10:40 Russia has 1000+ fighter aircraft which is too many for us to fight in the air, this is why the US supplied lower cost ground anti-air (cost effectiveness)
10:50 It's going to take a considerable length of time to build a Ukrainian air force that is the size and scope and scale that will be necessary (implying that they plan to)
15:10 Sometimes it sounds like Ukraine is losing in these meetings but that's not the case (casualties caused to Russia used as excuse)
17:00 The rules we have agreed are "do not use US supplied equipment to attack into the geographic space of Russia" - avoids answering whether the Belgorod attack was US supplied equipment
21:45 The US defaulting on its debt would have very significant national security consequences
22:35 interesting questions) What is the strategy? To help Ukraine win a decisive victory or to just get them a better hand at the negotiating table?
Boring answer we're just providing them what they need, "we'll let the ukrainians decide what their goals are".
Henry Kissinger recently said both Russia and Ukraine will have to give up territory in any deal. Both will be dissatisfied. And war could erupt again because Ukraine is being so heavily armed and they have "the least experienced strategically experienced team in europe" (General Milley is forced to stifle a smirk at this comment 23:12)
Milley Thanks for asking a very easy question for me, from Henry Kissinger. (massive sarcasm)
Russia will not get their strategic objectives: Conquering Ukraine, capturing Kiev, the end of the Zelensky government. (these weren't the goals that Russia laid out, he is repeating the made up goals the US substituted)
Ukraine will not get their strategic objectives in the near term: To liberate all of occupied Ukraine
Fighting will continue until a negotiated settlement or fighting coming to a indeterminate conclusion in the future. (implication here being that the fighting will only stop with a negotiated settlement)
Most interesting takeaways are the west recognising they have a long term production problem with equipment. The debt default being potentially catastrophic. And Milley's smirking and inability to hide his inner thoughts regarding the Kissinger question implying that Kissinger is probably completely correct about it.
EDIT: Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck this is the wrong thread how can you fuckers upvote me like this without telling me it's supposed to be in the news mega.
Lol it just looked like an appropriate enough comment for this thread