Steve: "Apollo threatened us, said they’ll “make it easy” if Reddit gave them $10 million."
Steve: "This guy behind the scenes is coercing us. He's threatening us."That is an insane way to twist "Hey since you said my app was worth $20 million a year do you want to just buy it for half that?" Like borderline defamation tier.
Wow, I can't believe Steve "white supremacist doomsday prepper and wannabe slaver" Huffman would just go on :reddit-logo:'s internal communications and tell lies.
brutal, apollo app man should point the app to lemmy endpoints and let er rip
the users of the app want their feet pics subreddit slop, not some commie platform nobody uses
It's no surprise that enshitification hit Reddit, but even understanding the economic impetus behind this kind of thing I'm still left shaking my head at how fucking self-destructive capitalists are.
I can only assume you didn't realize I was recording the call, because there's no way you'd be so blatantly lying if you did.
This article, ladies and gentlemen and enby friends, is a master class in covering one's ass.
I still used Reddit for trans meme subs and a few small hobby ones but there's no way on earth they're going to get me to use the god-awful official app. I would even touch grass before that.
inb4 1000 comments going "just use some other app" that will also not work because reddit is shutting down the whole goddamn api for 3rd party apps
I do find it odd that none of them are attempting to just pass the cost on and monetize their users. Seems like it would be worth a try if I was an app dev.
They would have to charge like $20 a month.
The API costs for apollo are $5/user/month and that's assuming they have no other costs.
well if the app is currently free, they currently don't have any other costs right?
Just be clear to the users that it's $5 a month for Reddit, and then another $3 for their trouble of collecting it. See who bites.
The app is currently paid with a free version. There is a flat rate version with basic functionality and a subscription with advanced functionality. A majority of the problem lies in converting those subscriptions which are normally $10 a year over to $120 a year. There's not real good way to do it since if you cancel everyone and have them resubscribe you lose a ton of users.
Also it will involve them incurring an essentially unknown debt. There could easily be a glitch in the app that lets you spam API queries and cost the dev a ton of money. Just lots of unknowns.
Probably would have been as successful as Twitter Blue.
>be Apple fanboi
"Your initial post in April sounded quite optimistic. Are you dumb?"
In hindsight, kinda yeah.
>still chirp enthusiastically about my oppressors after app scuppered
idk anything about the apollo drama, nor do i care to learn about it, but if it means redditors are mad/lose access to reddit im all for whatever is going
The only downside to it is that those third-party apps are the ones who actually developed accessibility features. Reddit doesn't think it's profitable to make the website usable for disabled members. /r/blind had a big thread about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/13zr8h2/reddits_recently_announced_api_changes_and_the/
Well I don't agree with their API policy, But I DO agree with their sticking it to mods and share blue bots policy!
Enshittification is inevitable for centralized corporate platforms. Open source platforms are the only sustainable option. I think most people knew that but didn’t think it could happen to reddit, and they learned the hard way that even reddit will die in time. If it were open-source then it would be relatively simple to simply move to a new website when the leadership became unbearable. I don’t know if Lemmy or Mastodon can be the next reddit-like platform, but we’ve clearly crossed the Rubicon now.