How "imperfect" does a party have to be before that becomes a waste of time though? My local org disagreed with me on every important issue last time I spoke to them, and joining them would do nothing but have me get into pointless arguments with "Weekend Communists"
I'm not saying I'm holding out for a "perfect" party here, but I feel like the line should be drawn with this: "Can I do more good work within this organisation than I can outside of it?" Having access to a properly organised group, even an imperfect one, enables an individual to do a lot more good in the world than if they were acting alone, but spending time in a party that does nothing of value will only waste your own time.
spending time in a party that does nothing of value will only waste your own time
Of course. I assumed we were talking about a real party that does real work, not some do-nothing larp and debate group. The question that was originally asked was whether it's worth joining a communist party in the US, and my impression is that there are at least one or two out there that are not completely useless.
Yeah, just wanted to throw that out there that joining an org, any org, isn't always a good use of time. Though for a charismatic or knowledgeable enough individual, they could probably turn a LARPing group around into a decent org. Unfortunately I am not that person.
No. You should join a party even if they are imperfect.
How "imperfect" does a party have to be before that becomes a waste of time though? My local org disagreed with me on every important issue last time I spoke to them, and joining them would do nothing but have me get into pointless arguments with "Weekend Communists"
I'm not saying I'm holding out for a "perfect" party here, but I feel like the line should be drawn with this: "Can I do more good work within this organisation than I can outside of it?" Having access to a properly organised group, even an imperfect one, enables an individual to do a lot more good in the world than if they were acting alone, but spending time in a party that does nothing of value will only waste your own time.
Of course. I assumed we were talking about a real party that does real work, not some do-nothing larp and debate group. The question that was originally asked was whether it's worth joining a communist party in the US, and my impression is that there are at least one or two out there that are not completely useless.
Yeah, just wanted to throw that out there that joining an org, any org, isn't always a good use of time. Though for a charismatic or knowledgeable enough individual, they could probably turn a LARPing group around into a decent org. Unfortunately I am not that person.