I was screen-shopping a few unopened Pixel 3a on eBay, and it was a good deal at 66$. I could have had them shipped to India, or bought them through my relatives, effectively bypassing the need to pay duty, delivery fees or taxes. But lo, it's Verizon-locked. And maybe I could be wrong here, but apparently, flashing international ROM or custom ROM can't bypass this. So annoyed by this shit, because factory-unlocked devices get sold quickly, or are deliberately expensive.

  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    21 days ago

    Okay so I'm from a third world shithole but I still don't get it

    In the west it seems that most people rent phones on contract from a mobile service provider, which includes the mobile service like calls, texts and data all in one monthly payment, is that correct? If so, why? It seems weirdly bottlenecked, I see people confused that their MSP doesn't "have a {phone_model}" and I'm bewildered by this.

    Back in my original country, people buy phones like other gadgets from a tech shop mostly, usually outright, then separately they will buy a SIM card from an MSP store, which they then top up online or with an ATM type machine where you can top-up numbers with cash.

    Usually your SIM will have a tariff, which will consume X money per SMS/minute/GB, and you can also use this cash mobile balance to pay online in many stores. There is usually not a cap on how much you can actually use MSP services, all data is effectively unlimited, you only pay as you use it, and you can also pre-pay to have unlimited data without charge for a certain time period. There isn't really any kind of monthly cycle, you just top up as you run out (hopefully before).

    Carrier-locking is also not really a thing.

    MSPs will often also sell you phones at their syores, but their selection is usually quite limited and mostly there for convenience. In the UK I do see tech shops carrying phones as well on display, but I've never actually met anyone IRL who acquired phones this way outright.

    On the other hand online - people seem to just buy second hand off eBay, then get a separate SIM card, that's much more like what I'm used to, and what I myself do, but I don't know why this isn't more popular.

    • Barx [none/use name]
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      21 days ago

      In the imperial core the "free phone every X months" gimmick (it's not free lol) works really well on their targets. I keep trying to convice people around me to just buy their own unlocked device because it's the same cost or better but they're kind of... addicted to an upgrade spiral.

    • velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      20 days ago

      I could never grasp the logic behind it. Well, they tried this locked carrier nonsense in India, and failed hard.

    • Lenins_Cat_Reincarnated [he/him]
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      20 days ago

      I switched from pre paid to monthly payments for comfort, I would run out of data because I’d forget to buy more.

      I do buy my phone and sim separately though. The people that buy their phone from their internet provider probably do it because they want an expensive phone but can’t pay in 1 go. In the end they pay more though.

  • blobjim [he/him]
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    21 days ago

    I feel like that's mostly on the person selling it. Any device bought outright won't be carrier-locked. People should not be selling carrier-locked devices. But that's probably why it's priced so cheap.

  • WilsonWilson [comrade/them, he/him]
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    21 days ago

    Can you use phones made in China? I'd like to get a Huawei phone but they are missing an important band I need for my area (usa). Seems like they are easier to find unlocked.

    • radiofreeval [any]
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      21 days ago

      If someone is looking for an unlocked Pixel, they probably want Graphene for privacy and you can't get that on Huaweis.

      • velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml
        hexagon
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        20 days ago

        On point. I'm going to move to a privacy ROM. Unfortunately, Huawei phones lack support - as in, the community maintains Pixel, Moto and OnPlus devices.

        • radiofreeval [any]
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          20 days ago

          I'm in the same boat, I got a pixel 8 pro for ridiculously cheap but there's no plan to pay it off with a lump sum so I'm just waiting till carrier lock gets turned off.