• ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    13 days ago

    When the dollar signs in your eyes make you forget one third of the phrase "military industrial complex."

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    13 days ago

    Not only that, but also at a fraction of a cost.

    In October, NATO’s senior military officer, Adm. Rob Bauer, said that the price for one 155mm shell had risen from 2,000 euros ($2,171) at the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion to 8,000 euros ($8,489.60).

    https://www.defenseone.com/business/2023/11/race-make-artillery-shells-us-eu-see-different-results/392288/

    Russia’s production costs are also far lower than the West’s, in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality in its effort to build weapons more cheaply, Mr. Salm said. For instance, it costs a Western country $5,000 to $6,000 to make a 155-millimeter artillery round, whereas it costs Russia about $600 to produce a comparable 152-millimeter artillery shell, he said.

    https://archive.ph/k90gt

    • D61 [any]
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      13 days ago

      Supply and demand curves, babyeee!

  • Olifant@lemmy.ml
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    13 days ago

    Which I'm sure are definitely not of lower quality with an increased ratio of duds produced by a more war-centric economy that's ultimately degrading their society even further.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      13 days ago

      Yeah idk man, I'd need to see some evidence that this was the case and not just wishful thinking on the level of "Their nukes probably don't even work."

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      13 days ago

      Even assuming Russian shells are lower quality (and you have absolutely zero evidence of that), a shitload of weapons that are lower quality can still beat you.

    • Kumikommunism [they/them]
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      13 days ago

      war-centric economy that's ultimately degrading their society even further

      You're talking about the US here right?

    • D61 [any]
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      13 days ago

      Nothing in the article supports that.

      Also, nothing in the article specifies if the production capacity in Russia is from running the same factories longer or adding new factories. The former could increase defective munitions being produced and the later would probably show about the same level of defectives as production at lower rates.

      Also, artillery shells and their fuses are two different things. Nothing in the article says anything about the fuse production, it might be assumed in the article and I'm just being pedantic, or it might an intentional oversight. Pretty sure its the fuses that are normally the problem when an artillery shell doesn't explode when its supposed to.

    • WashedAnus [he/him]
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      13 days ago

      Well, with Ukraine being supplied with sufficient, high quality munitions and equipment (and certainly not ancient, mothballed rustbucket tanks), they'll push the RuZZian orcs out any minute now. That's right, any minute now, Steiner will advance and push them back to Moscow!

    • WashedAnus [he/him]
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      13 days ago

      Can't believe all of these tankies are ignoring anti-Russian propaganda. Real thinkers inject Ukrainian Government press releases disguised as journalism straight into their veins.

    • InappropriateEmote [comrade/them, undecided]
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      13 days ago

      Lol. I wouldn't have been surprised by this kind of blatant cope a year or two ago. Those cringe lies about Russians not knowing how to fight or having inferior tech were all the rage among the NAFO losers at the time. Of course it was all projection even then, but now that Russia is so obviously and thoroughly spanking Ukraine, it's much harder to phrase the "Russian orcs are dumbdumbs who fight with shovels!" line without doing a massive self-own.

      And speaking of self-owns, it's pretty funny that you insist on bringing up a completely unrelated topic where you were totally not owned by people who schooled you in an attempt to disabuse you of your willful ignorance regarding Tienanmen Square. But it looks like you won't even believe your vaunted western liberal sources when it comes to making sure you don't have to take your head out of the sand.

      edit: Looks like I was a little late to reply to this one. Does anyone know if a user still sees responses to their comment if the reply was made after the parent comment was removed?