Why is it okay for videos of people being brutally killed allowed on the internet?

  • Albanian_Lil_Pump [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    There’s a lot of nuance when it comes to gore and people have already mentioned some of it. My hot take is, some gore is necessary for rehabilitation. Hold on, before you leave, hear me out.

    After WWII, American soldiers forced German soldiers and citizens to look at photographs and video of massacred prisoners in concentration camps. In addition, many were also forced to handle the bodies of the victims (e.g. transport, bury). This is technically a war crime because it falls under “collective punishment,” but the result is that Germany is deeply ashamed of their past, nominally. In reality a lot of Nazis are overlooked in the military and politics, but at the very least many people just hate their fascist ancestors and history. The German people became traumatized but at least now the next generation doesn’t want a repeat of that, nominally. So… good trade off? very-smart

    Japan and Italy never got this treatment, and the consequences for this in Japan is dire. The war crimes denial, the worship of their emperors even the one in WWII, the praise of their soldiers and history in schools and politics. Their nation was traumatized into submission to the US, but not to hate their imperial past. Also, all the mass shootings in the US - people just hear about it from the news and watch body cam footage of epic cops saving the day. They don’t see the victims eyes, and so nothing is changed. Really, I think whenever a mass shooting happens the governor, president, and townsfolk should be forced to walk through the scene. Things might change when they can no longer sleep and haunted forever.

    Gore videos on the internet are often grainy and the victims are faceless and no one ever cares to look up who they are. But when you see a face, possibly someone you once knew, it seems to become ingrained. Horrified rather than desensitization. Maybe the videos should be regulated in some way, but I think gore itself is a useful tool to making people reconsider their (in)actions

    If there’s a better explanation, I’m all ears. It can’t just be solely the USSR right? It’s not like they controlled the entirety of Germany but Germany in general dislikes Nazis (proper). They had no presence in post war Japan and the US made no effort to do the same thing as Germany, so I can’t think of any other reason.

    • Quaxamilliom [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      The war crimes denial, the worship of their emperors even the one in WWII, the praise of their soldiers and history in schools and politics. Their nation was traumatized into submission to the US, but not to hate their imperial past.

      It was wild to me to learn just a few months ago that they let the emperor live out his life and he only died in like the 90s. I thought they executed that motherfucker after the war like all the other fascist leaders.

      • keepcarrot [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Especially given how much of a big deal they made out of not wanting to let the Japanese have one condition of their surrender

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      After WWII, American soldiers forced German soldiers and citizens to look at photographs and video of massacred prisoners in concentration camps. In addition, many were also forced to handle the bodies of the victims (e.g. transport, bury). This is technically a war crime because it falls under “collective punishment,” but the result is that Germany is deeply ashamed of their past, nominally

      this is a deeply unscientific approach as it ignores the many other factors in play. For evidence of such a conclusion you would need a study of the effects of exposure to violent images on people convicted of serious violent crime

      I would personally argue that the efforts of the soviets in East Germany and even the occupation of west germany were largely responsible for the public shame