That's not what Camus is saying. It's not about literally feeling joy or sorrow. Happiness in this case refers to Sisyphus finding meaning and purpose in his suffering. Because suffering is all there is. You can find a reason to endure it, or you can kill yourself. Those are the only options. Some people don't realize that because they're fools who have never observed the reality they live in, but that doesn't change the bare facts of the matter.
All life is is choosing what you want to do with the time between now and the moment you die.
This is the guy who wrote “There is only one really serious philosophical problem, and that is suicide”, so probably not the only place his philosophy is not a reflection of average human psychology
You're still walking. For whatever reason you haven't killed yourself, though you have the option to do so at any moment. That's the "happiness" being discussed, not the emotion of joy. For whatever reason Sisyphus chooses to roll his boulder instead of opting out. For whatever reason you're still walking around. You and Sisyphus both continue to find some kind of meaning in continuing to exist, and in continuing to suffer.
, though you have the option to do so at any moment
nah i reject that. maybe in i could apply for MAID but I have an intense aversion to causing myself pain or distress and i did not choose to have that. I'm physiologically capable of doing lots of things that I don't do, sure, but i can't override that aversion to pain or the intertwined risk of becoming much much worse off that I currently am and I don't think that's a free choice or has any business being called "happiness".
I mean, it's generally agreed on by most philosophers that the ignorant and the foolish live a blessed existence. The average human never wrestles with philosophical questions, serious or otherwise. Or if they do they do it very quietly in private.
big if true. that seems like a horrible misassumption of human psychology
I don't agree with it either, not a big fan of the "grin and bear it" psychologies in general
That's not what Camus is saying. It's not about literally feeling joy or sorrow. Happiness in this case refers to Sisyphus finding meaning and purpose in his suffering. Because suffering is all there is. You can find a reason to endure it, or you can kill yourself. Those are the only options. Some people don't realize that because they're fools who have never observed the reality they live in, but that doesn't change the bare facts of the matter.
All life is is choosing what you want to do with the time between now and the moment you die.
This is the guy who wrote “There is only one really serious philosophical problem, and that is suicide”, so probably not the only place his philosophy is not a reflection of average human psychology
yeah i'm a walking refutation of that particular idea
You're still walking. For whatever reason you haven't killed yourself, though you have the option to do so at any moment. That's the "happiness" being discussed, not the emotion of joy. For whatever reason Sisyphus chooses to roll his boulder instead of opting out. For whatever reason you're still walking around. You and Sisyphus both continue to find some kind of meaning in continuing to exist, and in continuing to suffer.
nah i reject that. maybe in
i could apply for MAID but I have an intense aversion to causing myself pain or distress and i did not choose to have that. I'm physiologically capable of doing lots of things that I don't do, sure, but i can't override that aversion to pain or the intertwined risk of becoming much much worse off that I currently am and I don't think that's a free choice or has any business being called "happiness".
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I mean, it's generally agreed on by most philosophers that the ignorant and the foolish live a blessed existence. The average human never wrestles with philosophical questions, serious or otherwise. Or if they do they do it very quietly in private.