Bahman M. (@bahmanm@mastodon.social)
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Attached: 1 image My fellow software engineer, It's the year 2024. Please store your #Linux #desktop application configurations ONLY in `$XDG_CONFIG_HOME`. NOT in `$HOME` or other non-standard or obsolete places. May #FreeDesktop be your guide. https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/ #Programming #DevOps #SysAdmin

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  • Telorand@reddthat.com
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    2 months ago

    I didn't know about this (and thankfully, haven't written anything public). I've been trying to fix an install script for an OSS project that doesn't work on immutable distros, and using the XDG Base Directory specs might just be the panacea I was looking for!

    • dizzy@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Whoa I’m a stickler for getting as much as I can out but even I have .zshenv and some other too hard to figure out things in there. How’d you manage a total wipeout?

      • Samueru@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        zsh is actually easy and it is detailed in the archwiki

        You have to set $ZDOTDIR in /etc/zsh/zshenv and iirc that was the only location that required root to edit.

        For the rest of stuff, here is how I fix steam for example and you can check the rest of my dotfiles for how I configured zsh and all of that.

        Although I haven't updated them, I still had a .local directory back then, it was 1 week ago that I changed .local for Local and that let to an issue with distrobox which I made a PR fixing it that's still open though.

    • dotslashme@infosec.pub
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      2 months ago

      For me personally I just hate that I do not know where to find configs, especially when using a dotfiles repo, it becomes harder than if they're all available under a common path.

    • SmokeInFog@midwest.social
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      2 months ago

      But what’s the difference?

      I can only imagine someone asking this if they a) don't use the terminal except if Stackexchange says they should and b) have yet to try and cleanup a system that's acquired cruft over a few years. If you don't care about it, then let me flip that around and ask why you care if people use XDG? The people who care about it are the people in the spaces that concern it.

      Off the top of my head this matters because:

      • it's less clutter, especially if you're browsing your system from terminal
      • it's a single, specified place for user specific configs, session cache, application assets, etc. Why wouldn't such important foundational things required for running apps not be in a well defined specification? Why just dump it gracelessly in the user's root folder outside of pure sloppy laziness?
      • it makes uninstalling apps easier
      • it makes maintenance easier
      • it makes installing on new machines easier

      It’ll be in /home anyways and I heard BSD had some issues with something that could be XDG.

      🙄

      • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago

        Someone asking a question doesnt merit the insult of saying they "would never ask if they used a terminal." I have no particular dog in this fight, but not being a dick isn't that hard.

        As to using this standard, just because this is your preferred standard, doesnt mean its the only standard.

        It may actually be the best now, but so were the 14 others that came before it. Your stated reasons are the same reasons as everyone agreeing to use any other standard. Consistency, predictability, automation,ease of backup/restore, etc.

        What sets this standard apart from all the rest? Based on their own description, they aren't even an official standard, just one in "very active" use.

        So why this, specifically? Just because its what you're already doing?

        • SmokeInFog@midwest.social
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          2 months ago

          Someone asking a question doesnt merit the insult of saying they “would never ask if they used a terminal.” I have no particular dog in this fight, but not being a dick isn’t that hard.

          This is true, and something that I'm working on. For some reason my brain is uncharitable in these situations and I interpret it not as a simple question but a sarcastically hostile put down in the form of a question. In this case, "Why would you be dumb and not just put things in /home". That really is a silly interpretation of the OP question, so I apologize.

          As to using this standard, just because this is your preferred standard, doesnt mean its the only standard.

          Sure, but the OP was essentially asking "Why isn't dumping everything into a user's /home the standard? Why are you advocating for something different?"

          Based on their own description, they aren’t even an official standard, just one in “very active” use.

          There are a LOT of "unofficial standards" that are very impactful. System D can be considered among those. The page you link to does talk about a lot of specifications, but it also says that a lot of them are already under the XDG specification or the reason for XDG is to bring such a scheme under a single specification, i.e. XDG.

          So why this, specifically? Just because its what you’re already doing?

          • yes I do use it, so I am definitely biased in that regard
          • it bring a bunch of disparate mostly abandoned specification into a single, active one
          • it's the active specification that has learned from past attempts
  • wvstolzing@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    vim now has an option to put the .vim folder in ~/.config; though I'm not sure if the default plugin/package & syntax folders can be set under ~/.local/share.