Dude. These people are insane and not worth your time. Just block the sub like I’m about to do and never look back. They can find comfort in their eco chamber
"People who disagree with me are mentally ill and worthless. I, for one, prefer to create my own comfortable eco chamber, never look back, and then accuse them of living in an eco chamber."
Nah, you're in the echo believing western propaganda that you're too stupid to recognize. You probably believe in weeger genocide. Ethnic minorities, including uighurs were excluded from the one child policy. If China wanted to do genocide, why would they be exempt from draconian population control that was already in place?
The idea is that people who are new or casually scrolling by whom know little of what lemmygrad is or what their goals on lemmygrad are will see the one side being rude and the other politly informing or educating the other side.
the actual result of typing up an effort post rationally debunking point after point, with citations, is that 99% of people, including the person you're responding to, skimming it looking for a single line they can grab on to and twist it back around at you. sometimes it pays to do that but most of the time, my experience is that you convince more people if you can break the hold of liberal hegemony within their minds. and decidedly uncivil means are much more effective at doing that. many (most?) of the posters on hexbear were libs or even borderline fash who stumbled onto the old reddit sub, got thoroughly mocked for spouting bullshit, and stuck around to learn more because they couldn't shake the nagging feeling that they were missing something.
different rules obviously apply in offline spaces but it's that urge to bring rules from one space into another, very different arena that's at the heart of this issue.
I understand however my point is not to type out books to them, but simply call out their behavior or misinfo in a logical way. For example, what we are doing here. Simply discussing.
Dude. These people are insane and not worth your time. Just block the sub like I’m about to do and never look back. They can find comfort in their eco chamber
"People who disagree with me are mentally ill and worthless. I, for one, prefer to create my own comfortable eco chamber, never look back, and then accuse them of living in an eco chamber."
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Nah, you're in the echo believing western propaganda that you're too stupid to recognize. You probably believe in weeger genocide. Ethnic minorities, including uighurs were excluded from the one child policy. If China wanted to do genocide, why would they be exempt from draconian population control that was already in place?
Please let's not name call these people, it only boldens them to say more misinfo against PRC/CPC
they're gonna do that even if we're polite to them. civility tone policing sucks.
The idea is that people who are new or casually scrolling by whom know little of what lemmygrad is or what their goals on lemmygrad are will see the one side being rude and the other politly informing or educating the other side.
the actual result of typing up an effort post rationally debunking point after point, with citations, is that 99% of people, including the person you're responding to, skimming it looking for a single line they can grab on to and twist it back around at you. sometimes it pays to do that but most of the time, my experience is that you convince more people if you can break the hold of liberal hegemony within their minds. and decidedly uncivil means are much more effective at doing that. many (most?) of the posters on hexbear were libs or even borderline fash who stumbled onto the old reddit sub, got thoroughly mocked for spouting bullshit, and stuck around to learn more because they couldn't shake the nagging feeling that they were missing something.
different rules obviously apply in offline spaces but it's that urge to bring rules from one space into another, very different arena that's at the heart of this issue.
I understand however my point is not to type out books to them, but simply call out their behavior or misinfo in a logical way. For example, what we are doing here. Simply discussing.
It will help the undecided scroller see, more clearly who is discussing in good faith and whom is not.