The core of capitalism is that you own the means of production and what you produce. Corporate/crony capitalism is that you can own things that other people make because you paid them to make it. Under free market capitalism, I don't own the thing until I pay for the thing.
I hire you to make a chair and I'll probably give you some money beforehand to reserve the chair and pay for materials, but the chair isn't mine until you give it to me and I pay
You're on Lemmygrad, we have so many reading lists, they're not there to look pretty but to be used for the information they contain. If you're here in good faith you have no excuse to have absolutely no concept of what these systems of socio-economic relations are.
I'm here by accident, this post keeps getting pushed on me. I'll check out some of the literature and see what it has to say though. If I learn something then thank you in advance
Thank you for responding well once the confusion cleared up. We get a lot of trolls, so please understand that we fight misinformation constantly, and are quick to point it out.
While you can't describe a whole ass mode of production in much detail in a single sentence, the pushback you're getting is because your description is basically the opposite of one of the defining features of capitalism. As another user pointed out, your comments show you do not understand what is meant by "means of production".
you better do some reading before engaging in these discussions, you sound really confused about these concepts. ive never read someone more confused about this.
I am at a loss of words for what you said. The one on the left is the central tenant of Marxism.
A tenant is a person who occupies land or property rented from a landlord.
The core of capitalism is that you own the means of production and what you produce. Corporate/crony capitalism is that you can own things that other people make because you paid them to make it. Under free market capitalism, I don't own the thing until I pay for the thing.
I hire you to make a chair and I'll probably give you some money beforehand to reserve the chair and pay for materials, but the chair isn't mine until you give it to me and I pay
No.
It's almost as if you can't describe an entire economic system in a single sentence accurately. Who knew?
You're on Lemmygrad, we have so many reading lists, they're not there to look pretty but to be used for the information they contain. If you're here in good faith you have no excuse to have absolutely no concept of what these systems of socio-economic relations are.
I'm here by accident, this post keeps getting pushed on me. I'll check out some of the literature and see what it has to say though. If I learn something then thank you in advance
Thank you for responding well once the confusion cleared up. We get a lot of trolls, so please understand that we fight misinformation constantly, and are quick to point it out.
While you can't describe a whole ass mode of production in much detail in a single sentence, the pushback you're getting is because your description is basically the opposite of one of the defining features of capitalism. As another user pointed out, your comments show you do not understand what is meant by "means of production".
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you better do some reading before engaging in these discussions, you sound really confused about these concepts. ive never read someone more confused about this.
You don't know what "the means of production" is... like at all.
Do the McDonald's employees own the McDonald's?