geteilt von: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/19377025

[...] I announce that our move off of wlroots is now complete and MR 6608 is now merged.

  • dannoffs [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Imagine having to rebase your entire project because you're a piece of shit.

  • Treeniks@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    People keep saying this happened only because vaxry got banned from the FDO, completely forgetting the fact that hyprland has used their own modified fork of wlroots for ages now. They've wanted to get away from wlroots even before this whole fiasco, it really just tipped the needle for them to finally pull the trigger.

    Mind you also, the ban in no way prevents hyprland from using wlroots still. The only thing the ban did was prevent vaxry from contributing to wlroots upstream, which is damn unfortunate if you ask me.

    • dannoffs [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      You believe his "fuck you guys, wlroots sucks anyway" blog post? In that case I have a wonderful bridge for sale that you might be interested in.

      • Treeniks@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        I don't need a blog post to know this, considering I've been closely following hyprland since vaxry's first posts about it on reddit over 2 years ago.

  • forkbomb9@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    For everyone shitting about Vaxry, I recommend reading both sides of the equation, not only FDO/Drew's.

    • dannoffs [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      The only defense of Vaxry ever presented was that he was a bigot on his own discord and not freedesktop's. He's a shit bag and he can take his i3 for fascists elsewhere.

  • devraza@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Very nice, this comes with a lot of advantages for Hyprland, and I wholeheartedly congratulate Vaxry on separating from the rubbish that is FDO's management.

  • Dario@feddit.it
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    2 months ago

    I lost some faith in humanity upon reading that such drama over attitude that I would consider juvenile at best and mildly inappropriate at worst is still sparking debate.

    I regained some faith in humanity upon reading many people trying to put things into perspective - this guy is not evil incarnate.

    Also - and this is catered to American audiences - do not forget that this guy is from Poland. American left-wing values do not stretch all over the world.

    • Urist@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      American left-wing values

      Hold up, what? The Overton window of US politics is so skewed to the right that what is usually considered left-wing there is right-wing elsewhere. US left-wing (read right-wing for much of the rest of the world) values are definitely common globally due to American cultural export (read military hegemony and neocolonialism).

      • Dario@feddit.it
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        2 months ago

        The so called woke ideology is in fact spreading all over the world although I believe the layman is somewhat unaware of what is really going on. I am from Europe. In recent years, in my country it has become a common saying that "we are not allowed to say anything". Common people have become aware of this trend, though they have yet to pinpoint it to a political argument or even to the country of origin.

        • Urist@lemmy.ml
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          2 months ago

          woke ideology

          Like basic respect for others?

          not allowed to say anything

          Yeah, this is just not true. Unlike those who are actually marginalized, these people say nasty shit and claim that being called a dickhead for it is a violation of their freedom of speech. The reality is that they actually want some sort of immunity to backlash for their own words and actions, effectively limiting other people's freedom of expression.

          • Dario@feddit.it
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            2 months ago

            If everyone can say nasty shit, freedom of expression is guaranteed to everybody. I think that basic respect for others is advisable and being friendly goes a long way but I still want to have the possibility to say nasty shit, if a polite feedback is not enough to state my point. Or even for humorous purposes, if that is what I want.

            • Urist@lemmy.ml
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              2 months ago

              You misunderstand what I am saying: They are mostly (save where hate speech laws apply) allowed to say nasty stuff. They just do not enjoy the privilege of everyone else shutting up about it. I.e., other people react to it and say unkind, possibly nasty stuff back, which the original people in question get butt hurt by and subsequently whine about "the woke mob cancelling them".

              • Dario@feddit.it
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                2 months ago

                It does not stop to being called out for a wrong pronoun. The consequences for using words not approved by the woke mob can be very real, like losing a job and being effectively cancelled. When interacting with a transsexual person, I address said person by the pronouns that match the sex that they purport to show off. Doing otherwise would be impolite. On a serious note, though, a man who underwent procedures to appear as a woman is not a woman: said person is still a man who underwent procedures to appear as a woman. The woke mob wants me to affirm that a transsexual woman is, in fact, a real woman. I will not say that. I would be a lying. I tend to pursue truth. Truth does not care about people's feelings.

                • Urist@lemmy.ml
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                  2 months ago

                  The woke mob wants me to affirm that a transsexual woman is, in fact, a real woman. I will not say that. I would be a lying. I tend to pursue truth. Truth does not care about people's feelings.

                  Ok. Seems to me that you just want a free pass at being an ass.

                  She is a real woman even though she does not conform to your expectations of what gender is. Here is the thing though: She does not need your affirmation to

                  1. be real
                  2. look like a woman
                  3. live like a woman
                  4. feel like a woman.

                  What reason do you have to claim that she is not a "real woman" (whatever that means, I can guarantee that it is not well defined)? Most importantly, if she feels like a woman, even if you disagree on some metaphysical level of nonsense of what is a woman, why would you have the need to tell her what you think? Lastly, why do you think your opinion about her body is important?

                  • Dario@feddit.it
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                    2 months ago

                    Much of what you are claiming is not grounded in truth, but I tend to pursue truth. Transsexual "women" fail to meet one basic requirement to be considered women: they are not female. A woman is an adult human female. I can guarantee that this word is well defined. Look it up on a dictionary, if you do not believe me. People can make statements about themselves that are untrue, but it is up to me if I want to keep up with their perception of themselves. They need not care about what I say the same way I do not want a law in place that forces me to keep up with their different perception of themselves. In parts of North America you can face harsh penalties for "misgendering". When the left stretches things up to the point you can face legal consequences for truthful speech, we digress into totalitarianism.

                    • Urist@lemmy.ml
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                      2 months ago

                      Transsexual "women" fail to meet one basic requirement to be considered women: they are not female.

                      Ok.

                      When the left stretches things up to the point you can face legal consequences for truthful speech, we digress into totalitarianism.

                      This is not at all what totalitarianism means, look it up in a dictionary or something.

    • qck@lemmy.wtf
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      2 months ago

      This is just far left acting like how they always act, isolating folks to satisfy their reaching arguments. This does no benefit to FDO. If you ask all these people for any source they will share a 2yr old drew vaults blogpost. They can just go to discord or github and screenshot the alleged "bigoted fascist pos owner and community" but for now they will just stick to making hypothetical scenarios of how they will get harassed for contributing.

  • azron@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Wow. Too bad people can't get past themselves and grow together over preferring to hold on to a situation to be enraged about forever. Sorry no apologies accepted ever. I've established a pattern as victim, jury, and judge and my position is rational and not emotional and I will sound off to squash the bigotry as the only way to defeat it is to never move past it.

    • dannoffs [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Pound sand nerd. The chief operating bigot of hyprland never apologized and chose to rebase their entire wm instead of being normal.

      • azron@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        If you bother to read any of the posts you'll see he claims he apologized already and then re-appologized in the post. But that doesn't fit the narrative and since we've all forgotten how to make mistakes and grow from them together why bother even reading the links people share, they just way down your snap judgements that lead to your outrage fix.

        But don't mind me I'm just a random internet person who saw a cool project being posted noticed a bunch of controversy, wanted to see what was reasonable so I waded in and was met with a bunch of people getting high on their outrage.

        Still not decided but certainly not as clear as one side is acting like it is and they seem to just want to stay mad.

  • witx@lemmy.sdf.org
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    2 months ago

    What would be the advantages of using this over, say i3? (Does it summarize to X vs Wayland)

    • featured@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 months ago

      The equivalent of i3 on Wayland is Sway; it’s even compatible with i3 config files, it’s a true successor. Hyprland is popular because of the eye candy and its rapid adoption of features which patch over some of the gaps in Wayland functionality. However I think those advantages have become fewer and farther, I personally use sway and if I wanted the visuals I’d use the swayfx fork

  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 month ago

    i don't have any stake in this, i'm a fucking xfce user lmao, but man "hyprland" is not a very great name since it immediately makes me think it's a crypto bullshit project..