cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/1338851

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      • Wanderer@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        Absolute state of the world that the view that people should defend their country is facism. I'm sure the allies didn't see themselves as fascist in WW2

          • Wanderer@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            You don't think the allies out people in jail for not helping with the war effort?

            Right tell me how every example of "you need to do something for your country to get citizenship" is fascism? Plenty have people have argued that you need to be educated to vote or to have land to vote or whatever. They are shit systems yes but they aren't fascism.

            You're just using an over used internet buzzword. It's going to lose all meaning eventually.

        • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          yeah uh, nationalism is usually bad. imagine fucking dying for lines on a map. Imagine killing for them.

          • Wanderer@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            Yea what the Russians are doing is fucked. People just trying to live their lives and they come in and start killing and controlling.

    • somename [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      A bit fascist to assume that the only way to contribute to society is military service.

            • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Dude "You should have to provide service to the abstract idea that is 'the nation' in order to get your human rights" is just fascism, no matter how you try to spin it.

              • Wanderer@lemm.ee
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                1 year ago

                To be protected by that country yes.

                See how long you get to have your rights when you stop paying taxes or ignore the laws of the state

                • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  This nerd thinks that countries are real, and not just a legal fiction invented basically yesterday in historical terms.

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  To be protected by that country yes.

                  LOOKS LIKE FEUDALISM IS BACK ON THE MENU, BOYS scared-fash

            • Kuori [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              starship troopers the movie was a literal send-up of fascism and you are sitting here arguing that we should do fascism so absurd it is the realm of actual parody

              or you're advocating for the book's straight up fascism. either way, you should eat a bullet, nazi.

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  I'm on about the book.

                  It's militaristic but it isn't fascism.

                  doubt

                  Heinlein was a fascist, full stop. Verhoeven didn't even finish the book before he directed the movie because he hated the fascist ideology in it and tried to satirize it in the movie but both the actors involved and a lot of audience members missed the satire.

                  https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/paul-verhoeven-slams-starship-troopers-remake-fascist-update-perfect-trump-presidency-1201747155/

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      If you hate people leeching off the government, just wait until you hear about every single CEO and "Captain of Industry".