cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/1338851

Archived version: https://archive.ph/yDjTx
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20230811193345/https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-fire-all-regional-military-recruitment-chiefs-zelenskiy-2023-08-11/

  • FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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    1 year ago

    Russia - starts wars and threatens nuclear holocaust - you sleep

    NATO - literally just exists - you wake

    Russia's #1 export is troll farms and that's why Russia is the most hated country in the world. Y'all just give people more reason to hate Russia.

    • egg1918 [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      NATO - literally just exists - you wake

      How many millions of civilians were murdered/killed/starved/driven from their homes/displaced by American and NATO led imperialist wars such as the bombing of Yugoslavia, the invasion of Afghanistan, the bombing of Libya, or Isr*el's genocidal occupation of Palestine, which is proudly supported by the US and NATO?

        • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          You honestly think less civilians were killed in all those things COMBINED than by Russia? Really? That's actually one of the most wild liberal claims I've ever seen, and thats saying something. You've lost attachment to reality.

          • FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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            1 year ago

            Prove me wrong. If you can't, well of course you're a troll farm and you're part of the reason Russia has a reputation as the shitstain of the world.

            • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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              1 year ago

              You made the extraordinary claim. Your job to provide proof.

              Also I'm an American communist from New England. One of the posts on my profile is about weird shit in the American Pie movies. Another recent one you can actually see is about Skyrim. Clearly troll farm shit. (I'd point out the idea that the Kremlin would bother to astroturf lemmy is INSANE, but that ones been falling on deaf ears because you all are so self important).

                • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  Jesus I really doubt someone with Fae in their name is cishet but you used that word really slurishly.

                  simping for a dictatorship

                  I'm not. Looking at the Ukraine War with the nuance and knowledge of geopolitics it deserves isn't simping for Putin. I hate the Putin regime, especially what they do to their queer community. Its not like Ukraine is that much better on queer issues though?

                  My posting history goes back three years before federation. You'll find very few of my posts were about the Ukraine war.

                  • FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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                    1 year ago

                    I'm obviously queer af. And wtf about that was slur, and how could you be more bothered that someone used the word "queer" online more than a dictatorship that genocides queer people.

                    Unless you hate queer people, and hate being reminded they exist, and you want them to be removed from the world.

                    Nuance

                    What nuance? No one from Hexbear has posted anything nuanced, it's all whataboutism of every other country that isn't Russia.

                    Y'all are literally more offended than anyone would criticize Russia than anything else.

        • egg1918 [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          Show me the numbers, liberal. Post your source for that wild claim.

            • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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              1 year ago

              You're counting both sides but then blaming only Russia lol? Hard to take that seriously. Give us Ukrainian deaths, preferably only civilian deaths, and then we might have a conversation.

              Russia's primary exports are murder, lies, and nuclear terrorism.

              That would be the United States actually. Especially the last thing since Russia has never nuked anyone and America has.

              • FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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                1 year ago

                You know how US Republicans like to claim that they are the party that ended slavery?

                If you have to dig way back in history to make your point relevant and ignore everything that's happening in the present day, your point is stupid and your mental stretching looks ridiculous.

                • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  I don't have to dig back very far to find US atrocities actually. The Afgan war ended two years ago and was one of the counterpoints brought up to you.

                  But the idea that the United States is acutally better today than when they dropped the bombs is rich. At least we were nominally fighting fascism then.

                  ETA: OK so if by "nuclear terrorism" you mean... the mere act of having nukes and the implicit threat of using them. America has nukes too. Today. In 2023. Or is it only nuclear terrorism when bad country has nukes?

                  • FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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                    1 year ago

                    Putin has threatened nukes. Biden has not threatened nukes.

                    At least we were nominally fighting fascism then.

                    America was fighting a fascist enemy, not against fascism itself. America practically invented fascism.

                    There are no limit of ways to criticize the US, but it's slowly, marginally getting better. The US is slowly progressing.

                    Russia is getting worse.

              • FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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                1 year ago

                Putin has threatened to use nukes as recently as this year.

                Are you defending a dictator who threatens to start a nuclear holocaust?

              • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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                1 year ago

                My favorite part is saying that Russia exports "Nuclear terrorism" when saying that Russia is worse than... the only country that has dropped a nuclear bomb.

        • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          You ignorant gnome. We hate Russsia more than you. Russia is the liberal democratic nation built by the US from the corpse of our comunist forebears. I'd ask if you ever read a history book but your Midwest tag proves the only ones you got were written by Haliburton so it isn't your fault you are the way you are. If I wver visit your region I must try to trap you I in a circle of salt and force you to actually read some theory.

          • FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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            1 year ago

            Russia is not liberal or democratic. It is a corrupt capitalist oligarchy/dictatorship with limited human rights. It was built by the US from the corpse of the USSR.

            Y'all claim to hate Russia but also spend a suspicious amount of time defending it.

              • FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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                1 year ago

                Absolutely not. America is more liberal and democratic, even if marginally. America has not had a single dictator in power for 2 decades and it's actually fairly okay to be gay in America.

                I would 1000% rather live in the US than live in Russia.

                • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  The US has more money. There are for sure places where there that is not true. As history progresses we will see which way America grows. I have no reason to expect it will become anything other than more russsia like as conditions intensify.

          • FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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            1 year ago

            Also, just do a quick browse of midwest.social vs hexbear. Your instance acts and talks like 4chan or the_donald.

            If I wver visit your region I must try to trap you I in a circle of salt and force you to actually read some theory.

            Is it an actual book or is it wojak spam, because I love reading but your wojak spam is insufferable.

    • Riffraffintheroom [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Literally just existing, chilling, sprinkling unexploded cluster bombs throughout the country side for Ukrainian children to step on for generations to come, vibing.

    • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]
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      1 year ago

      dog how can you be this clueless about NATO and still have such a strong opinion lmao

      https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/1052756

      the idea of NATO "just existing" is a straight up rejection of history