I thought odysee is a better alternative for youtube and offers much more privacy. But it's not. So disappointed.

Feeling hard to quit youtube because of other platforms doesn't have much better or quality contents expecially no instance of peertube is truly usable. 🤥

  • helenslunch@feddit.nl
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    2 months ago

    PeerTube is a nice idea but almost all instance owners don't enable much federation, if any.

    I had to create my own and set it to auto-federate with others.

    And still there's a large lack of interesting content or stability or usable clients.

    Also the sorting is completely out of whack. If I click on "trending" videos, the top ones are usually several months old.

    There also a whole lot of non-English content with no way to filter it.

    • Meldrik@lemmy.wtf
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      2 months ago

      I administrate a PeerTube instance (peertube.wtf) and everything is just much more complicated compared to a Lemmy instance.

      One reason I don’t “auto-federate” is because there’s a ton of pirated and questionable content. So much content is in a foreign language and so many instances are inactive and therefore filled with spam.

      That’s why I add instances manually to federate with. This way, the quality of the content is also much higher.

      • helenslunch@feddit.nl
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        2 months ago

        there’s a ton of pirated and questionable content

        It's easier and more productive to just remove bad instances as they're added than it is to scower all the different instances and pick and choose which ones to federate with.

    • Alb087@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      Yes ! I found some useful and meaningful videos only on tilvids.com in my perspective.

  • GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    A platform like YouTube can't be copied, especially by privacy respecting companies or the community. It's way too expensive to run.

  • foremanguy@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Today there's no good alternative to YouTube, you can only change the front end... Today you cannot challenge YouTube, just because it needs to host PBs of datas, financially you can't just afford it.

  • Mio@feddit.nu
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    2 months ago

    You can use YouTube with another Frontend. See it as YouTube only hosts the videos.

    Personally I have a problem leaving YouTube due to I need to be logged in to get their recommended videos based on my profile.I don't think anybody else can do that.

    • communism@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Yeah, thats what keeps me coming back to youtube tbh. I know it's tracking me but for some reason youtube is the one place I like the personalised recommendations. I just use youtube for background noise while eating meals so i like to go to the homepage and quickly find a video that looks interesting because it's recommended to me.

      • Mio@feddit.nu
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        2 months ago

        I we one has to have a balance between privacy and joy. I mean, how much you win vs lose on it. However, I would still like to have the same functionality elsewhere if I could.

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Yeah I've gone 100% audio only through podcasts, broadcasts, and audiobooks. Video just is not ready for decentralization.

  • Dessalines@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    This is a solved problem via torrents. Content creators just actually need to create torrents for their videos, and post the magnet links (here, or elsewhere).

  • harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    I've been disappointed by every peertube instance so far. Not going to stop looking. Fortunately the alt front ends I use for YouTube are still working.

  • jaxiiruff@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    Grayjay with youtube restricted for just searching and being able to view links. Nebula and Patreon for actually supporting creators I care about while avoiding youtube (most of the time for the patreon people).

  • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    What makes peertube unusable for you? I'd like to improve my instance.

    • Alb087@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      Less contents, not federated, every video doesn't have all quality options.

      • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        Are you disappointed when there aren't 360p, 480p, and 720p options available?

        I have broadband, so I get annoyed if my video is set to something lower than 1080p. For that reason (and storage space) I disabled those lower resolutions, but I want to know how other users feel.

        • Alb087@lemmy.ml
          hexagon
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          2 months ago

          Yes. I feel disappointed because i have only 1GB per day mobile data. I don't wish to spend all of it by watching a single video 🙄

        • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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          2 months ago

          Every DVD I convert (stuff I own) is converted to 480. I watch on a 60" TV from about 8' away.

          I can see no difference between 480 and 1080 - resolution is far less important than things like data rate, frame rate, and a few other things that I honestly don't fully grasp yet.

          I just watched Pirates of the Caribbean, at 480, this weekend. Looked perfect.

    • Alb087@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      It's a chinese platform. Comparatively google is much better than baidu even in terms of privacy. 😐

      • What does privacy even mean to you? Google is literally a US military contractor. Who do you think stands a chance of prosecuting you? This is flat out racist and uninformed. You haven't provided any evidence other than it being Chinese.

      • Besides, it was a joke. Baidu and Billibilli have completely different content. It's like replacing candy with a tomato in a child's meal. Of course you're going to get mad at me.

        Odysee in this analogy would be like replacing candy with shitty off brand candy.

        Odysee is not a foreign thriving streaming service it's a venture capital funded mess that's never going to do well compared to YT, same with Bitchute and others.

        You're going to want https://invidious.privacy.dev/ for an easy way to get your fix. Or Youtube DL.

        I just don't really use youtube for much of anything unless I randomly look stuff up. Odysee is certainly not going to provide me with tutorials or music albums!

        Peertube is also not a replacement and more a way for people to self-host their channels free of censorship and then federate (like here on Lemmy) but it's going to be much bigger than Odysee or Bitchute because it's an open source software platform, not a shitty youtube knockoff.

  • codenul@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Not a true alternative, but I love Freetube. Just for the fact that I don't have to have an account tied to it with no ads and sponsor ads is nice.

    Lately there's been connection issues but usually gets resolved with 2-3 days.

    Even works on my raspberry pi.

  • land@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    I don't know what technology YouTube uses, but I can easily play videos directly on YouTube even with my poor internet speed. However, other front-ends like Piped, FreeTube, GrayJay, NewPipe, LibreTube, and Invidious struggle to stream videos smoothly and experience too much buffering.

    • foremanguy@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      The answer is simple, they are not the right way so YouTube doesn't offer them a real way to fetch content. So it adds a first layer of latency for the alternatives as FreeTube and NewPipe (I actually don't know so much about GrayJay). And after adding a bit of latency, you increase this by going trough a server for Piped, LibreTube and Individious.