• OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    "Science describes some material reality" "science describes some reality"

    You put dialectical materialism in the latter category?

    Also scientific testing+Marxism and bullshit idealist debates are not in any way similar in methodology

    • OneMeaningManyNames@lemmy.ml
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      1 month ago

      Excuse me, are you whining about Marxism not making the first square together with physics? That would be a rather peculiar statement, but you present it as if it were self evident. Just in case you are shallowly serious I may respond that physics does not acknowledge social reality and admittedly it can hardly account for organic life. Marxism, in the common understanding is a scientific theory of social reality. The fact that it is an economic reductionist theory of social reality does not mean it is physics.

      • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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        1 month ago

        Marxism, in the common understanding is a scientific theory of social reality

        You're talking about "the common understanding" which is ironic in the context of this discussion.

        The fact that it is an economic reductionist theory of social reality does not mean it is physics.

        I would agree with you if I shared your shallow understanding of the subject. Have you read anything rigorous about dialectic materialism or historical materialism?

        Also do you think social reality isn't a material reality? That is a rather odd position to have?

        • OneMeaningManyNames@lemmy.ml
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          1 month ago

          Material in the sense of the basic physical quantities like length and charge? No. You need to add a splash of ethnography in your materialism.

          • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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            1 month ago

            basic physical quantities like length and charge

            You know that those are also social abstractions of complicated phenomenon too right? Or did you not read about what a social construct was because sociology is a soft science for girls? /s

            Also have you ever opened up Capital or Imperialism and looked at how many basic quantities they use when constructing their analysis?