• LalSalaamComrade@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    The fact that private companies work on public infrastructure must be one of the wildest cultural shock to anyone who is a non-American.

    • boonhet@lemm.ee
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      1 month ago

      This happens in most European countries as well, I believe?

      It works fine as long as the private companies are held accountable for their shit and the high-level planning is done by public offices.

      It breaks down when there are no consequences for budget or deadline overruns, or the actual deliverable failing to meet requirements, because obviously private companies are gonna fleece the tax payer.

    • CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Public employees are almost always not the highest quality and tend to be overpaid, why is it bad to have private companies do the work?

      • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        I work in a large corporation, I can assure you that the same kind of people in the same proportions in corporations as in governments. You really should not let low resolution ideologies impose their make beliefs on your world.

        • CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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          2 months ago

          I used to also, and I understand the issue, but the mega corps will still be more efficient than the government. This brings up the other issue of how the government funds all the tax dollars to large corporations and also props them up with regulatory protections.

          • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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            1 month ago

            It really depends what you mean by "efficient". But even if you go with "profit maximizer" that's still an ideological truth that falls apart easily for most human endeavor. Since both organizations are made of the same kind of humans, have the same basic technology and access to resources (when not crippled in some way). When you add on top non monetary social goals, task more complex than "deliver commodity at lowest cost and max profit", especially if you consider externalities, tgen saying " corporation are more efficient" as a blanket statement for use in all cases by default, it seems to me this is an ideological statement, really, an article of faith more then anything else.

            • CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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              1 month ago

              Its not an ideological statement, it is a comment on the structure of the organizations and how they have to work to survive. Corporations need to do things efficiently or they disappear, the reason large companies are able to be so inefficient is that they are propped up by the government. But the big corporations still have to be more efficient than the other giant companies or their business gets taken.

              When it comes to the government they can have irrational requirements and ways of doing things, and since they allegedly are beholden only to the voters (who dont have a clue what is happening) then they can be as inefficient as they want. An example that is non monetary is how the police will investigate themselves and find they did nothing wrong, they only have an incentive to protect themselves and their own people.

    • bountygiver [any]@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      he is indeed a part of a problem. Car manufacturers have been quite responsible for dismantling America's public transportation infrastructure.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      1 month ago

      Tbf California, unlike China, does use slave labor https://apnews.com/article/prison-to-plate-inmate-labor-investigation-c6f0eb4747963283316e494eadf08c4e

    • jaywalker [they/them, any]
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      1 month ago

      Yeah you might want to read the 13th amendment again if you think the US isn't using slave labor

      • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 month ago

        That's an article all right! But it's from 5 years before the article I posted, and it's just detailing what China THOUGHT was going to happen.

        Here it is 9 years later and it turned out they were wrong.

        It's okay for countries to make mistakes. We err on the side of not wasting money. They err on the side of preparation. They have more money to waste than we do so good for them.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
          hexagon
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          1 month ago

          What happened is that vast majority of these ghost cities have been filling up, and as a result of massive investment into housing 90% of the population in China owns their homes now. Meanwhile, US wastes billions on its constant invasions of other countries. Iraq alone cost over 3 trillion. Your regime errs on side of wasting absurd amounts of money on crimes against humanity while ignoring the needs of the people living in burgerland.