I agree that we have to start taking patsocs more seriously. I think one reason we see them as clowns and haven't moved past that is because they have yet to have any detrimental achievement in regards to communists; they talk a lot, but they don't have much to show for it. At the same time, they are going places (who's paying for their expensive trips?) and making ties, which is exactly what LaRouche did and was good at, and what fascists are also not bad at doing.

To temper their influence I should also note most historical communist parties also have ties to other parties and routinely invite each other, we're perhaps just less vocal about it and maybe we should be. I also don't think patsocs get invited because they would say that front and center, but rather take private trips and find a way to get into events, like when Hinkle asked a question to Maduro. He managed to get into the press conference and simply walked up during open mic time, it's not that impressive but -- he did it, and what I want to know I guess is did other communist parties also do this, or was he the only """communist""" alone up there?