The instance is currently federated with every instance (including places like lemmygrad and explodingheads) as the current stance is defederation should be a last resort with users being able to choose what they want to see instead
Exploding heads has some very questionable content though so its status is currently being discussed by the admins
I understand the reasoning but I think it's not the same situation as lemmygrad, which I feel is a normal instance with an ideological bent. Exploding heads is just violent propaganda. I hope you defederate.
What about hexbear? Is programming.dev federated with them? Or are they intentionally defederated with everyone?
hexbear split off and has been running their own fork for awhile separate from the rest of lemmy (so they couldnt federate with lemmy instances). They are coming back now though so lemmy instances will start to be able to interact with them soon
Looks like a typical right wing instance to me. I personally don't feel like propaganda is enough of a reason to defederate. You have propaganda everywhere, even from official news outlets.
The content that occasionally ended up in my All feed was mostly Hate against trans people (I.e. being happy about people's suicide), or complete nonsense conspiracies.
Their interactions in threads were unpleasant, and a small group of them were persistently provoking lemmyworld users.
If you search exploding-heads you might come across some examples, if they haven't been nuked from that instance.
Aside from that, I find Hexbear users really pleasant, and I've never seen a lemmygrad user provoke anyone 🤷♂️
For anybody that stumbles upon this post, pushed out our decision on it and it was talked about in the august newsletter https://programming.dev/post/1671024
The exploding-heads communities that break our rules have been removed from the instance (and if you find any more in the future report a post that shows it breaking the rules and ill deal with it)
Here's the front page of exploding-heads.com. It has a picture of a trans person hanging themselves with slurs I censored with an emoji since it's probably against the rules to post here
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A particular flavour of right wing though. One that goes out of it's way to say the most aboherent shit on people that are not like them.
In France we've got laws to regulate this type of speech. Say that AIDS is god's punishment to the homosexuals -> get a fine (or if it's the twentieth time you do it, go to jail).
I don't find it shocking that people are banning content that some countries judge so problematic that they are ready to put people in jail for it.
Two parts to this (as I understand it).
First, what shows up in
all? Users on this instance subscribing to /c/ on another instance will have the posts from that /c/ show up inall. This largely makesalla mess but it also gives a general idea of what the culture the admins are attempting to project this server to be. Additionally, this can only be moderated by the instance admins. Things that you'd rather not see in all have to be done via opt out by navigating to that community (seeing all the posts there) and then blocking it - which is not something that a user considering "do I want an account there?" has the ability to do.Second is the "what do users of that instance do here?" If instance
fooblocks instancebarit means that posts frombardon't show up onfoo- even for people subscribed tofoo/c/somethingon instancebar. However, if there is another instance -quxand users onfooandbarboth subscribe toqux/c/somethingthat block has no effect. Users onbarthat tauntfoousers require individual /c/ moderators to take action to ban those users (and the corresponding people need to report problematic posts and comments). For example, posting articles by Peter Thiel in a technology /c/ (this is an example - imagine a more prolific and polarizing individual) or making polarizing/notfunny jokes about gender fields in !programmer_humorHow much active administration and moderation do the admins and mods want to do? Note also that for all those subs with very little activity ( https://programming.dev/communities?listingType=Local&page=3 ) can make local posts look like a cesspool rather quickly with what would otherwise be an innocuous post on one sub when taken in aggregate.
I am here because with a very few blocks of communities (yes, programming humor) I can have this be something I wouldn't be embarrassed to have seen in the corner of my screen or access logs while at work.
Note if two instances are defederated from each other they can't see each others posts & comments on some third instance
So if people from world and people from beehaw comment on a post here people in p.d can see them both but the beehaw users can't see the world users (if you check this thread on beehaw theres some comments missing)
Due to this and the nature of this instance the people in different instances interacting with each other hasnt been a problem and its mainly the all feed. As you said people deciding whether they want to join the instance can't curate their all feed while they lurk so having that not be shit is ideal (and reducing the amount of blocks people need to do)
I found an option when digging through the lemmy code yesterday that allows a community to be hidden so it doesn't show in the all feed which might be the best thing to do currently. (It just can only be set from the backend and has no ui to set it for some reason ). Still allows users to interact here since that hasnt been a problem and still allows people to sub to those communities. Would have to be extended eventually to be able to cover entire instances and could make it a screen when somebody joins the instance of if they want to see things like politics, sports, etc. which could enable or disable different things to be hidden
