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We don't campaign for Democrats and we do run our own candidates and have won seats several times.
But tbh, we may at times go door-knocking for them at the local level, depending on the district.
So there's that.
I just feel that, with PSL funding, which is likely more steep than what we have, they could do a "blitz" throughout the country on the local level elections and affect local policy, thus getting more cred and goodwill among the proletariat. A big push in that direction would do wonders. It would show that MLs mean business.
You know that's literally the Democrats' campaign strategy, right? Same with 2020. So if you're doing the Democrats' campaign strategy but you're somehow not campaigning for them? Give me a break.
Are you not a democratic centralist org? You're telling me that when a party chair says to vote for Joe Biden against fascism at the national convention, that it just "depends on the district"?
You're really not doing a lot to change my perception of your party, here.
Building dual power in the various communities they exist within and firebombing police stations (for legal reasons, the second half of that is a joke)
National elections are the best way to raise your profile, and they show you have national ambitions. Doing those and nothing else would be a problem, but it makes sense to have national candidates as part of a movement-building strategy.
They are running a propaganda campaign more than a presidential campaign. Every campaign volunteer is someone who may join the party, and every signature is an opportunity to talk to strangers about socialism and the failure of bourgeois democracy. And from that perspective, it seems like it's been fairly successful.
As an outsider this is my perspective. We know that 3rd parties make zero movement electorally, except when they threaten someone's chances of winning. Instead of talking about Ralph Nader, it could, given enough momentum, be the PSL.
Every campaign give opportunity to talk to people like you said. Get enough people and now the media wants to know who this group is who was "siphoning votes" giving you free air time.
Because the US is a bourgeois settler colony, and tbh I think PSL is squandering valuable time and resources on these presidential runs.
what should they be doing instead?
Running in local elections and union elections and state elections, tbh.
They do those things too, you know.
I know, but this is a waste of time
Do more of those things.
Respectfully... You're in the CPUSA?? Should they be campaigning for the democrats instead?
We don't campaign for Democrats and we do run our own candidates and have won seats several times.
But tbh, we may at times go door-knocking for them at the local level, depending on the district.
So there's that.
I just feel that, with PSL funding, which is likely more steep than what we have, they could do a "blitz" throughout the country on the local level elections and affect local policy, thus getting more cred and goodwill among the proletariat. A big push in that direction would do wonders. It would show that MLs mean business.
That's my personal feeling on this.
I think Presidential elections are useless.
(Respectfully, I'm not attacking PSL at all.)
So you door knock for them, and leadership always endorses them. But you don't campaign for them. Got it.
Yeah, we don't.
And we don't endorse Democrats either.
My bad, you just keep writing articles about how important it is to vote for them. It's totally different, you see.
that's right
You know that's literally the Democrats' campaign strategy, right? Same with 2020. So if you're doing the Democrats' campaign strategy but you're somehow not campaigning for them? Give me a break.
We never have. That depends on the district.
Are you not a democratic centralist org? You're telling me that when a party chair says to vote for Joe Biden against fascism at the national convention, that it just "depends on the district"?
You're really not doing a lot to change my perception of your party, here.
I'm not doing anything to change your perception of the party.
I already accept that you hate people like me.
And yes, it depends on the district.
What the hell does this even mean? Holy victim complex
You know what I mean.
Don't talk to me if you're just going to insult me. Good day.
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Building dual power in the various communities they exist within and firebombing police stations (for legal reasons, the second half of that is a joke)
National elections are the best way to raise your profile, and they show you have national ambitions. Doing those and nothing else would be a problem, but it makes sense to have national candidates as part of a movement-building strategy.
I feel like that strategy holds up more in a proportional or parliamentary system, then in a majoritarian, presidential system, like what the US has.
The bar to enter a presidential race is so high, and requires so much effort, with so little return on investment, that it feels like a waste to me.
They are running a propaganda campaign more than a presidential campaign. Every campaign volunteer is someone who may join the party, and every signature is an opportunity to talk to strangers about socialism and the failure of bourgeois democracy. And from that perspective, it seems like it's been fairly successful.
As an outsider this is my perspective. We know that 3rd parties make zero movement electorally, except when they threaten someone's chances of winning. Instead of talking about Ralph Nader, it could, given enough momentum, be the PSL.
Every campaign give opportunity to talk to people like you said. Get enough people and now the media wants to know who this group is who was "siphoning votes" giving you free air time.
yeh