cross-posted from: https://r.nf/post/1771956

Thoughts?

  • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 months ago

    Paid apps: no problem. If it's good, I'll pay.

    Subscription: maybe, if it's worth it.

    Ads: F-Droid can fuck right off. If they do that, they'd be a miserable bunch of sellouts.

    • sovietknuckles[they]@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      If they were talking about Privacy-Preserving Attribution like Firefox is experimenting with supporting on MDN, that would be one thing, but it doesn't sound like that's what F-Droid is talking about.

      Not only are privacy and data protection founding principles for both Mobifree and F-Droid, the use of tracking-based in-app advertising poses a moral dilemma as well. If someone wants to gain access to an app, but does not have the financial means to purchase it, they can use it at a different kind of price - their user data.

      F-Droid is also considering ads that contain no tracking, which removes that moral dillema, IMO:

      It should be mentioned that it is possible to include in-app advertising without user tracking. However the lead conversion ratio drops dramatically, so the efficacy of this approach is not nearly as high.

      That's basically what PPA is, advertising without tracking. If advertisers want to pay for it, then great.

      Edit: Downvoting without responding like lemmitor

      • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
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        3 months ago

        F-Droid is also considering ads that contain no tracking, which removes that moral dillema, IMO:

        You assume everybody is okay with ads.

        I'm not. My brainspace has been highjacked since I was a little kid by stupid advertisers. To this day, I remember ads for products that have disappeared decades ago and that I never gave a shit about at any point in my life.

        Why are advertisers allowed to force their shit into my head?

        I hate ads. I'm utterly intolerant of advertising. I hate the tracking and the malware that come with ads, but I hate ads even more. There are no moral ads. The advertisement industry is a despicable leech that needs to die.

        If F-Droid springs this shit on me, I swear to god I'm gonna start having murderous thoughts...

      • eco_game@discuss.tchncs.de
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        3 months ago

        The first quote is taken out of context:

        Not only are privacy and data protection founding principles for both Mobifree and F-Droid, the use of tracking-based in-app advertising poses a moral dilemma as well. If someone wants to gain access to an app, but does not have the financial means to purchase it, they can use it at a different kind of price - their user data.

        For me this reads as them explaining and condemning that dilemma, instead of considering it as an option for F-Droid.

        • sovietknuckles[they]@lemmy.ml
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          3 months ago

          Sorry, I was trying to save space, but I can see how only starting the quote in the middle of the paragraph is misleading. I edited the quote to include the context.

          For me this reads as them explaining and condemning that dilemma, instead of considering it as an option for F-Droid.

          IMO, it read more like acknowledging concerns around ads but not explicitly condemning it. But I'm not going to form an opinion about it until they do something, or at least make their intentions clearer.