Mitch McConell says the quiet part out loud.

Exact full quote from CNN:

“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/4085063

  • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    And we know that the separatist fascists are Russian plants. The future will tell us how much there's a real independence movement instead in the areas.

    Nevertheless, conquering and genociding whole Ukraine is not approvable

    • silent_water [she/her]
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      11 months ago

      the idea that no one can think for themselves and must all be plants, shills, or dupes because they don't support your worldview is just plain racist. those damn asiastics, how could they possibly want to live their own lives and be free from shelling by a coup government that's trying to annihilate them -- it must be plants.

        • silent_water [she/her]
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          11 months ago

          engage with people as people and acknowledge that they very frequently have needs, wants, and desires that cut against your myopic worldview.

            • silent_water [she/her]
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              11 months ago

              should I take this to mean you recant your earlier statement about the Ukranian separatists being plants?

              • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
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                11 months ago

                We shouldn't entertain myopic worldviews like everyone is a plant even though we know of some

                We can assume good out of most and be critical of bullshit. Also helpful advice for avoiding misunderstandings :)

                • silent_water [she/her]
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                  11 months ago

                  I'll take that as a no. expecting liberals to refrain from dehumanizing people is just too much, I guess.

                    • silent_water [she/her]
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                      11 months ago

                      And we know that the separatist fascists are Russian plants.

                      this you?

                      • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
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                        11 months ago

                        engage with people as people and acknowledge that they very frequently have needs, wants, and desires that cut against your myopic worldview.

                        I'll take that as a no. expecting liberals to refrain from dehumanizing people is just too much, I guess.

                        This you?

                          • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
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                            11 months ago

                            Sure! That kind of "rules for thee.." is not my type of way to live so we can leave this repertoire here

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      11 months ago

      : |

      That is certainly a take.

      Do you know what the very first action of the coup rada was?

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          11 months ago

          The very first thing the Rada did when they were installed after the coup was ban the use of the Russian language in all official capacities. The country had been de-facto multilingual up until that point, though legally you were supposed to use Ukrainian. Give the ethnic and regional nature of the coup, ie Galacians vs everyone out East, it sent a pretty strong message which was received and understood in Donbas.

          • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
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            11 months ago

            I didn't realize that was the very first act of the Rada. I was thinking it was appointing Natalie Jaresko as finance minster. She was an American who became a Ukrainian citizen the same day she was appointed as finance minister. That happened a lot later than I thought though.

    • Maoo [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      Those lifelong Ukrainian trade unionists locked in their union hall and set on fire? Yeah, just fascust Russian plants.

      How did I arrive at such a smart and correct thought? I get that question a lot. Listen, tankie