• sweatersocialist [comrade/them]
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    3 months ago

    the optimistic side of me says most people know she isn't gonna do anything she promises, since that's what all politicians do, but they are voting for her anyway because she's not an old white guy and wont do project 2025.

    like, nobody can honestly be so fucking naive, so blind to history, as to think any of these establishment vampires are going to keep any of their promises or help them, right? their heads can't be that far up their asses

    the realistic side of me says, people have no memory and no conviction so they either do believe her or they don't give a shit because "muh lesser of two evils"

    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      Have you seen the "Oh great and wise Biden stepping aside. What a HERO. Putting party before country!" Posts?

      As though biden didn't promise to be a one term president and then held on to his incumbancy till we couldn't have a proper Democratic primary.

      • sweatersocialist [comrade/them]
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        3 months ago

        lmao yeah, and then all that creepy "WE LOVE YOU JOE" signs and banners all over the DNC. and they say 'blompf has a cult of personality'. blue maga is such a joke

  • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    i had a similar thought when i looked through the platform from the dnc and saw that all of the promises required a filibuster proof majority.

    what they're NOT saying/writing is where the devils lives:

    • kamala is going to win by a narrow margin; if she wins at all; which means that everyone else down ballot will likely fare the same; so none of that platform will become reality.

    • the democrats can change the filibuster rule at any time; but chose not to do so.

    • they're ignoring the genocide to win; but win what?

      • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        3 months ago

        This response confuses me completely. Being against genocide and the hypocrisy of the people that say that WW2 horrors shouldn't happen ever again but then support a genocide make me a Nazi?

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          I don't think you're wrong in spirit, but we are the "never again" crowd. It's a good motto to live by and it's entirely true. The fact that some people hypocritically use it to defend the genocidal state of Israel doesn't take away from how the rest of us should continue the remembrance of the Holocaust and vow to never allow genocide to happen again. Being Opposed to "never again" is something that you shouldn't do, even ironically.

          • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            3 months ago

            It's the hypocrisy of it that I am against. Just look at Germany supporting Israel genocide on the Palestinian. If it was a fiction, it would be completely unbelievable, but here we are .

        • MF_COOM [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          You didn't say any of those things lol. You described in vague shadowy language people who embrace the idea of never again allowing another Holocaust (a group you situate yourself outside of but: not a Nazi I guess) and then you ascribe a single and noxious behavior to the group.

          Look dude I don't know if you're a fascist or not but you sure made a sussy comment.

          • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            3 months ago

            A lot of the people that repeat that WW2 was horrible because of the holocaust are themselves supporting a holocaust. Is this more descriptive?

            • MF_COOM [he/him]
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              3 months ago

              The people that repeat that WW2 was horrible because of the holocaust

              Do you really not see the issue here? Are you not part of this group? I am. And I'm not supporting a Holocaust, are you?

                • MF_COOM [he/him]
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                  3 months ago

                  Are you or are you not part of this group

                  If you're not, yeah you don't get to push back when people call you a Nazi

                  • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    3 months ago

                    Do you really think I'd be against Palestinian genocide and support the holocaust or something? Genuine question.

                    • MF_COOM [he/him]
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                      3 months ago

                      The people that repeat that WW2 was horrible because of the holocaust

                      A lot of the people that repeat that WW2 was horrible because of the holocaust

                      Dude you went back and edited your post that we're arguing about without mention it and you're acting like I'm the weird one.

                      • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        3 months ago

                        I didn't mean everyone in the first place, that's way I edited it. It was literally an oversight. I am talking about the hypocrisy of Germany and the like, people or countries.

                        • MF_COOM [he/him]
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                          3 months ago

                          OK but you understand we've been having a debate about the problem with your wording and instead of saying oh yeah you're right I worded it poorly you just edited it and continued to argue as if there's nothing wrong with the way you worded it.

                          • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            3 months ago

                            I reckon my original wording choice wasn't the best (English is not my native language, so these slips happens often), but I didn't put any thoughts behind editing the comment other than fixing a mistake. You gotta also reckon that I repeated many times that it's the hypocrisy of saying "never again" and then supporting a genocide that I am completely against. let's just finish this with a virtual handshake 🤝

  • callouscomic@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    People idiotically think the president has unilateral power to do anything without Congress.

    Morons.