As an American, the US participation in the Ukrainian conflict as well as the Palestinian genocide are beyond reproach. Many describe them as proxy wars, but I'm not there yet.

During the Cold War, there was the Afghanistan, Vietnam, South America, Cuba, etc. These were proxy wars because there was a clear adversary on the other side. The Soviet Union.

Now, who is that? Russia? China? Who is "our enemy"? I see it was war is good for business and projection of power.

Am I wrong?

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Ukraine is a proxy war against Russia.

    Supporting Israel is the point, it's not a proxy.

    They need Israel to control North Africa, the Arab Peninsula, and much of West Asia. They need Israel to control the movement of goods and people from Africa into Asia and Europe. They need Israel to control the Red Sea and help project power into the lower Mediterranean. They need Israel as their laboratory for surveillance technology and oppressive systems of control. Israel is the unsinkable aircraft carrier, the most valuable asset the US has. Israel is more important than most US states tbh

  • redrum@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    In Ukraine, yes. The US is fighting a proxy war against Russia. The last 30 years of NATO expansion and USA animosity against Russia are enough evidence in my opinion.

    In Palestine, no. Israel and the USA are committing a Genocide against the Palestinians, or at least, is a USA backed Genocide.

  • nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz
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    4 months ago

    Watr in Ukraine is proxy war

    The reality is that NATO and the United States, are now, without question, in a proxy war with Russia," former CIA director and US defense secretary Leon Panetta told the ABC.

    "Maybe it's not a direct war, but it certainly is a proxy war, in terms of their efforts to make Putin pay a price.

  • plinky [he/him]
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    4 months ago

    Ukraine is a proxy war (for usa interests), israel is a genocidal ally (as it’s acting in its own interests). Both would fold without USA support, but I think they are somewhat different. Ukraine wouldn’t dare to shit on usa, or do something against usa word, and they perform their politics completely dependent on usa. Israel acts and behaves with much more impunity, and its alignment with usa interests is very meh