• bauhaus@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    So, how’d you come to the conclusion that the us isn’t to blame for opium production during its occupation of Afghanistan?

    because there are zero facts to support it.

    Show

    you argument is fundamentally flawed. no matter how many ways you twist yourself up, twist my words, or twist anything else, you’re never going to successfully argue against the facts.

    you lost this argument hours ago. you’re just torturing yourself at this point.

    • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Quick response!

      Would you say that the United States is responsible for governing industrial and agricultural output during its occupation?

      • bauhaus@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        first, as I’ve said, I’ve presented facts. I’m no here to discuss your straw man r be drawn into any rhetorical “traps” you might try to get me to admit something you can twist into something you can claim as a ‘win”— and I know that’s all you’re after here.

        I’m obviously not going to engage with you when I know you’re arguing in bad faith an from a flawed premise.

        it’s clear that you’re after some sort of catharsis - something to prove your hours of trolling was worth it, and I’m going to tell you now: you won’t get it from me.

        • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          Lol believe me, the only thing I’ve gotten or expect to get from this interaction is a headache.

          I’m not using any strawmen or rhetorical traps (what even is that?) or twisting your words. If you feel attacked just tap out, there’s nothing to win or lose and a conversation on the internet isn’t worth getting heated over.

          What you said and I quoted a couple of times way earlier implies you don’t think the us was responsible for opium production during the occupation and I want to understand your viewpoint. Do you think the us was responsible for opium production during its occupation of Afghanistan?

          • bauhaus@lemmy.ml
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            1 year ago

            Lol believe me, the only thing I’ve gotten or expect to get from this interaction is a headache.

            you have only yourself to thank for that. after all,. you made the decision to come and troll my comments, and you’re the one who refuses to stop. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

            I’m not using any strawmen or rhetorical traps (what even is that?) or twisting your words.

            except for the many, many times I clearly show you were, you said “nah-uh!” and we keep going around in circles.

            all because you refuse to admit you’re wrong and keep hatefully trolling me due to your deep-seated insecurities. because you just can’t walk away due to some hangup about what an internet stranger happens to think.

            but go on and deny that, too, and I’ll just keep repeating the same thing again and agin until the end of time.

            tired of losing yet? because I’m happy t keep telling you this forever.

            • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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              1 year ago

              You said there were zero facts to support blaming the us for production during the occupation, so does that mean that the production didn’t happen or it wasn’t the occupation governments fault?

              There’s no wrong answer here. I’m not gonna send the stasi to break down your door for being a lib, I just want to understand how someone who clearly values logic and rhetoric came to that conclusion.

              • bauhaus@lemmy.ml
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                1 year ago

                so does that mean that the production didn’t happen or it wasn’t the occupation governments fault?

                have fun on that journey of discovery!

                There’s no wrong answer here

                except for those which had no evidence to support them.

                I’m not gonna send the stasi to break down your door for being a lib

                you keep calling me names because it makes you feel better for trolling and bullying me, but you don’t know me at all nor what I believe because ii have said anything other than providing and debating the established facts. I could be communist or fascist or something in between, but all I’ve argued is the facts. nothing personal.

                I just want to understand how someone who clearly values logic and rhetoric came to that conclusion.

                I’ve said it hundreds of time, and you’re going to ignore it this time too: THE FACTS as supported by THE EVIDENCE.

                • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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                  1 year ago

                  So you’re not going to explain how you came to the conclusion that the us occupation government in Afghanistan wasn’t responsible for opium production while it was in power and you’re also not gonna provide any source for the facts that led you to that conclusion?

                  • bauhaus@lemmy.ml
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                    1 year ago

                    So you’re not going to explain how you came to the conclusion that the us occupation government in Afghanistan wasn’t responsible for opium production while it was in power and you’re also not gonna provide any source for the facts that led you to that conclusion?

                    I never said that. why do you think lying, especially when there’s evidence of what I DID say, will win you any “points” or whatever you’re after here?

                    I drew no conclusions as there was no evidence to support such a conclusion.

                    you’re welcome to prove - with evidence - how you came to that conclusion. As of now, none has been provided to support that conclusion. Someone asserted that and provided some link, but the evidence did not back up their claim.

                    so, keep raging, but you’re wasting your time trying to twist my words into something I never said.