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It does NOT taste like a hot dog, but it's still delicious in its own right. Would recommend if you're looking for a cheaper, healthier, and more convenient variant of a plant-based hot dog.

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  • Angel [any]
    hexagon
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    3 months ago

    To this, I can literally just repeat the point that that this is just one spin on plant-based hot dogs. There are hot dogs that actually not only do a better job at imitating the taste of flesh but have similar nutritional profiles than flesh-based hot dogs, and, especially nowadays, these "carrot dogs" are actually less mainstream than plant-based hot dogs that taste meaty.

    In a sense, you are inadvertently admitting that you have very little knowledge on how plant-based eating actually can be, and it's okay to be ignorant about it, but the whole "this is why people say things like 'vegans can't get adequate nutrition" just reeks of the common tendency that carnists have to concern troll about everything pertaining to veganism.

    Carnists often feel insecure about discussing veganism due to it causing cognitive dissonance, considering that there is no real sound, logical argument against veganism. I do animal rights activism regularly, and I have witnessed this manifest in many forms. It oftentimes entails making awful excuses (and turning to this very false idea that vegans cannot get adequate nutrition is among the most common), grasping at straws to make a tu quoque argument against vegans, and abusing bad faith.

    When doing activism, my partner and I have literally heard people use "I can't get adequate nutrition as a vegan" as an excuse for why they are not vegan, to which we always respond with by asking, "If we could prove that you could get adequate nutrition on a plant-based diet, would you go vegan?", and these people still often respond with a "No," indicating that the reason they gave is entirely disingenuous. The point of such an excuse is often to make people feel like they have a valid "pass" to support and condone the immorality that is animal exploitation and abuse, not to actually speak in good faith.

    The fact that you assume such good faith from the user I responded to is what makes me very skeptical because a person being so tilted over seeing a carrot-based hot dog is the exact kind of shit carnists do when expressing their frustration with veganism. It makes no sense that you're making points that are mostly about nutrition to empathize with this user even though their comment I was responding to actually said nothing about nutrition, so for you to relate this to nutrition as a way to defend the comment is honestly just flat-out illogical.

    Not only that, but similar to the user I initially responded to, you seem to be conveniently glossing over the fact that if you actually read the recipe, the creator of this recipe says that this is not an accurate imitation for the taste of a hot dog.

    Bottom line, this isn't as deep as either of you are making it. This is simply a recipe that uses a marinated carrot in place of the typical ingredients for a hot dog, and that's it. This singular plant-based food item doesn't say anything about vegan nutrition nor does it capture the essence of what kind of food a plant-based diet must entail. Plant-based diets can have a shit ton of variety, and making comments that reek of disingenuous carnist bullshit because of a single instance of carrot-based hot dog when there are several other examples of plant-based dishes that are far different than this in terms of both flavor and nutrition certainly raises my eyebrow when I think back to my experience of interacting with so many carnists who pull this shit in bad faith.

    I sincerely do not perceive any of this as being hard to understand. Also, the concern trolling too... no, the reason why people have fears about plant-based diets not being able to provide adequate nutrition is not fucking carrot-based hot dogs. It's just plain ignorance, and you are underestimating how much ignorance carnists can have. I understand that you are a carnist yourself, but honestly, I think your understanding of plant-based diets is far too shortsighted for you to make statements like that without me just perceiving it as concern trolling.