https://web.archive.org/web/20240915173553/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/15/world/europe/tramdriver-competition-frankfurt-tram.html/
I would 1000% go to this
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This is how all interviews with athletes are: "yeah we have to score more goals than the other team, but the other team also wants to score goals"
"We exist as dialectical opposites; my opponent is defined in his relation to me, and I at the same time am his enemy."