Here's mine:
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The Undiscovered Country
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Wrath of Khan
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Voyage Home
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Motion Picture
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Search for Spock
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Generations
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First Contact
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Final frontier
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Insurrection
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Nemesis
I'm not a fan of any of the Kelvinverse films, BUT if forced to rank them, it would be like this:
- Beyond
- Into Darkness
- Star Trek
EDIT: Apparently everyone on this website is insane
I have a soft spot for it. It's weird in a good way! No shade at First Contact tho.
It's got Kirk and Picard, which is a movie that should exist even if the execution wasn't ideal.
My perspective is that at least Into Darkness has a message? Kind of? '09 felt like Star Trek: Mountain Dew. Don't get me wrong though I don't feel either is worth defending and I put one second total into deciding the Kelvinverse order.
EDIT: Apparently everyone on this website is insane
The inmates are running the asylum
EDIT: Apparently everyone on this website is insane
Have you considered the possibility that ya basic?
\1. Star Trek VI
Very tight film. Christopher Plummer is excellent.
\2. Star Trek II / III / IV (as a complete Trilogy)
Can't separate these just like the LoTR films, anyways you got KHAN, the sacrifice of the Enterprise and Double Dumbass on you. Excellent trilogy.. (Note: Khan/Voyage/Search is the order of likeness)
\3. First Contact
It's the borg, gotta give it up for the Borg 👏
\4. Galaxy Quest
Never give up, never surrender!
\5. Star Trek TMP
Fuck you I LIKE Enterprise beauty shots set to Jerry Goldsmith music. With that said I like the story and character arcs of Kirk and Spock.
\6. Generations
It's OK. The rest of the DS9 uniform replacements won't arrive til Tuesday
\7. Star Trek V
Underrated. Has its moments. I think Sybok gives an excellent performance otherwise forgettable movie
\8. Star Trek Kelvin I
It's OK. Karl.Urban nails Bones.
Didn't see the others. I haven't been sold on seeing Insurrection and Nemesis ever despite easily able to and apparently I should give Beyond (Kelvin III) a chance.
Edit: so the numbers all got changed to 1 when posted and using ol reliable backslash to fix it did but left the slashes? I give up.
and Double Dumbass on you
Ha I forgot about that part. Makes sense to view those movies as a trilogy, too.
@GreenMario@lemm.ee, I seem to have discovered that you are my Star Trek preference twin.
Although, I would personally put Star Trek (2009) a bit ahead of V The Final Frontier, our teens profoundly negative reaction to it would make put it at the back or at best tied. There has been utter refusal from them to even attempt to watch Into Darkness and Beyond. Stuck watching them on my own, Beyond is a head shaker that spends all its time distracting from what could have been a good story with utter silliness like a motorcycle found randomly on a ship.
Into Darkness is in its own way as much a complete head scratcher as The Final Frontier, but with A list casting and more appalling results. In both cases, you can see the traces and structure of what might have been an interesting movie if only a massive train derailment hadn’t beset production somewhere and somehow.
I did however see Insurrection at first release as a family outing with the in-laws. It was fine, and worth a watch at home. In fact, its main issue is that it felt like it should be a made for cable movie rather than a cinematic release. There so much more awful stuff out there by comparison. Nemesis for a Trek example. By half way through I was was wanting to get back the ridiculously self indulgent Picard dune buggy opening sequence.
My final ranking.
1./ VI - The Undiscovered Country
2./ II, III, IV the complete trilogy
3./ First Contact
4./ I - The Motion Picture (I enjoy it more as I age and it’s remastered.)
5./ Galaxy Quest
6./ Insurrection
7./ Generations (It happened.)
8./ TIE V - The Final Frontier & Star Trek (2009)
9./ TIE Nemesis & Beyond
10./ Into Darkness
Genuinely good films: 4,6,2,8
Ok but flawed films: 1,3,9,5,7
Derivative and unnecessary, but sometimes charming films: 11,13
Very few redeeming qualities and should never have been made: 10,12
- Wrath of Khan
- Search for Spock
- Voyage Home
- Undiscovered Country
- Star Trek (2009)
- First Contact
- Generations
- Into Darkness
- Beyond
- Motion Picture
- Insurrection
- Nemesis
- Final Frontier
2009 Trek higher than First Contact??? This is heresy of the highest order!!!
All of them? Okay:
- First Contact
- IV
- VI
- I
- II
- Generations
- Insurrection
- Search for Spock
- Nemesis
- Final Frontier
But in reality, All Good Things should have been a Trek film with a higher budget, because that would have been the best of the films by far.
I don't like the Kelvinverse films either but I guess I like the first one the most, the other two are so dumb it makes my brain hurt.
I'm totally with you ... especially on the "All Good Things" take ... Q is as iconic to TNG as the Borg and it's a shame he didn't make it into a film.
Interestingly, I'm thinking ... how much could they have just swapped the stories of Generations and All Good Things? Seems oddly feasible, with the whole Kirk thing being the most awkward component to handle.
Otherwise ... my only change would be to put Generations further up on the list ... I'm partial to it ... maybe it's just the look/cinematography of it?
All Good Things is my favorite Trek episode of all time, next to Yesterdays Enterprise which actually also could have been a great movie :P
Yeah Generations could have just been a decent finale for TNG with All Good Things being the big breakout film, I think that would have worked far better.
Generations is a good movie IMO, I just think it's weaker than a lot of the OG Trek films personally.
- Wrath of Khan
- Motion Picture
- Undiscovered Country
- First Contact
- Voyage Home
- Search for Spock
- A wiki entry for the unproduced Tarantino Trek
- '09 Star Trek
- Into Darkness
- Final Frontier
- Nemesis
- Generations
- Beyond
- Insurrection
I am right with you on Insurrection in last place. I can't find one redeeming thing about it.
- "Beyond"
- "The Voyage Home"
- "Undiscovered Country"
- "Search for Spock"
- "Wrath of Khan"
- "TMP"
- "The Final Frontier"
- "Insurrection"
- "First Contact"
- "Generations"
- "Nemesis"
- "ST09"
- "Into Darkness"
That's a pretty good reason. You like the plot, the casting, the production..?
I think the Kelvin-universe cast is largely pretty good. Zoe Saldana has never struck me as a great fit for Uhura, but I like everyone else, and I think Karl Urban is great. I also like that all the characters get something to do in the movie. The interactions between Spock and Bones, and Scotty and Jaylah are definite highlights for me.
Speaking of, Sofia Boutella's Jaylah character is a lot of fun, and if they actually ever get a fourth one off the ground -- not holding my breath -- I do hope they're able to work the character in.
It's hard to go wrong with Idris Elba in anything, but I do think he was wasted as Krall, who is not particularly compelling, and that's probably the film's biggest failing. But then, I don't think many Trek movie villains are all the compelling. The most relatable threat in all thirteen movies was the giant space probe that just wanted to talk to some whales. 'Cause, y'know...same. After that it's probably General Chang, and then, despite my low regard for the movie overall, Nero.
The set pieces are great. Obviously it's silly, but the opening scene where Kirk gets attacked by the Teenaxi is a lot of fun. The scene where Krall's drones are tearing up the Enterprise is riveting. I love Kirk on the motorcycle during the rescue beam-out scene. And the final fight between Kirk and Krall is really well done, even if the actual threat is kinda lacklustre.
I love the design work. Yorktown station looks great. The Franklin might be my favourite starship design across the franchise. I really like the new uniforms that don't have the textured delta pattern of the previous two films, as well as the Franklin uniform that Spock ends up wearing. I don't love the phasers with their rotating emitter, but other than that aspect they look good.
I recognize that it's pretty much a dumb action movie, but it is, in my opinion, a very watchable dumb action movie. That's really all it's trying to be, which I respect. Am I going to argue that it's technically he best executed movie of the bunch? Of course not! But is it my personal favourite? Yeah. Except for when my mood changes and "The Voyage Home" is my favourite.
- First Contact
- The Undiscovered Country
- The Voyage Home
- The Wrath of Khan
- Insurrection
- The Search for Spock
- The Motion Picture
- Nemesis
- Generations
- The Final Frontier
I guess this is a hot take.
- Wrath of Khan - Here it comes.
- The Search for Spock - Your planet, welcome!
- The Voyage Home - Gracie's pregnant.
- Star Trek 2009 - Tiberius? No that's the worst.
- The Undiscovered Country - What IS it with you?
- First Contact - It's a primitive culture!
- Generations - It won't be installed until Tuesday.
- The Final Frontier - Not in front of the Klingons!
- Beyond - We are not equipped for this method of combat
- Into Darkness - Gorn C-section, those bastards bite!
- The Motion Picture - Still puts me to sleep
- Nemesis - I hated it more after the director commentary. DARK!
- Howard the Duck - Better than Insurrection
- Picard Season 2 - Still better than Insurrection
- ... (other movies here, like Lilo and Stitch 2)
- Insurrection
