cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21294172

Julia Conley
Oct 11, 2024

  • Maeve@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 month ago

    I'm inclined to agreement. I'm also not comfortable with terms like "barbarism," and "savage" after having seen a cooking show doco, of all things. I don't know what better terms to suggest. Cruel, bloodlust seem to fall short. I'm not faulting you, because I use those terms; it's just recently come to my awareness, and I usually don't say anything. I would just feel more comfortable raising the topic here, among those who would be less inclined to reactionary response.

    • Raphaël A. Costeau@lemmy.ml
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      1 month ago

      I am paraphrasing a phrase that was attributed to Engels: "Socialism or Barbarism". I do not think there is a problem in using barbarism for the likely return to tribalism in the case of capitalism falls for itself, it has a problematic etymology, (like vandalism, for example) and it was widely used in a racist way, but I do not believe that using it, with the meaning defined in Origin of the Family, has any impact on the permanence or absence of racism.

      • Maeve@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 month ago

        I understand. I'm not faulting you. It was just brought to my consciousness in the last month of two. I didn't have a word to suggest, other than vile, heinous, abhorrent, etc but they fall short.