• s20@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    you voted and still got roe v wade overturned.

    Roe v Wade got overturned by a Supreme Court that was stacked by the Republicans during the previous administration you absolute waste. You're literally arguing against your own point.

    And again: what fucking part of any fucking word I've typed makes you think I'm happy with the Biden administration.

    Oh, wait! You're not actually reading anything I'm saying! You're just shifting goalposts and regurgitating talking points! Holy fuck, it's like talking to a communist version of my mother.

    Don't talk to me unless you actually know something. Take your useless idealism elsewhere.

      • s20@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        I'm reading what you're saying, it's just so dumb and trite it might as well be embroidered on a tea cozy

        The fact that I feel the same way about you probably indicates that this is a pointless waste of time on all sides.

        And what is your vote doing to stop that? Anything at all?

        In the Biden election? Nothing. Roe was done for as soon as Trump won. It was on life support, but people refusing to vote for the lesser of two evils pulled the plug.

        I'm tired dude. I'm just so fucking tired.

        Do what you want. You're not gonna accomplish any more than I am so I'm not sure why I cared enough to get worked up. We're all fucked no matter what. Do your little protest vote or whatever the fuck. I'm sure it's gonna do so fucking much.

          • s20@lemmy.ml
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            1 year ago

            the distinction is you keep repeating shit everybody knows, whereas I (and other leftists) are trying to explain you to a new concept

            I keep repeating shit because you keep not hearing me. You still think I'm trying to defend the Democratic party. You still think I find the Biden administration defendable. If you understand "lesser of two evils" so well, why do you think I'm trying to defend a party I keep calling evil?

            So I'll tell you what, I'll deal with the "new concept" part of what you said when you explain that to me. Once I understand why you think I'm defending a position that I haven't once defended, I might be able to move on.

              • s20@lemmy.ml
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                1 year ago

                I didn't say Biden. I never said Biden. I never brought up his name. I at no point defended the actions of his administration or his party.

                All I said is that the other guy is worse, which means you vote to try to have it not be the worse one. That's explicitly not a defense of any party. It's an attack on them both. I'd repeat my initial phrase, but apparently even though everyone seems to think it means I'm defending someone, trying to drive it home has gotten me labeled a congenital idiot.

                And you've been misrepresenting me and jumping up and down on me ever since.

                And nobody has presented me with a better option. They just keep calling me names, saying I'm repeating myself, and saying "they're all the same" and "Biden bad!"

                So please, for the next election, give me an action I can take that has some sort or hope of getting us all out of this collective shit show.

                  • s20@lemmy.ml
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                    1 year ago

                    Have you seen Sophie's Choice? If not, this won't make much sense, but When Sophie chose Eva over Jan, was she endorsing Jan's death?

                    Because I don't think she was, but by the reasoning you're using on me here, you would have to think Sophie endorsed Jan's murder. As far as I can follow your logic, Sophie was not only in favor of Jan's death, she supported it fully, and could find no fault in it.

                    We were going to have Trump or we were going to have Biden. No third choice I made - or anyone else at the time made - could do anything to change that. So, even though I didn't like the creepy, handsy, corporatist faux-progressive ancient douche, and didn't care all that much for his former boss, or his party, I chose him. Because the other guy had shown himself to be worse. All the same bullshit, plus rabble-rousing hate speech, direct attacks on my LGBTQIA friends, and more. He was empirically worse.

                    If you can, somehow, read that as an endorsement, then I'm relatively certain we're not speaking the same language, and this has all been a huge waste of our time.

                    And fuck off with calling me a liar. I haven't. If my language skills have failed me, and I haven't managed to get my meaning across, fine. If I'm wrong, fine. But I didn't set out to deceive anyone, nor have I intentionally or knowingly made a false statement.

                    Edit: grammar