• s20@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    How. How am I doing that? I'm too tires to fight you, I'm just looking for information at this point.

      • s20@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        So your answer is essentially don't vote, or be really rude with your ballot in protest.

        Okay. I can do that.

        How does that help? What does it accomplish?

          • s20@lemmy.ml
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            1 year ago

            The people counting the votes see the dissent.

            Assuming they're not machine counted, fine. What does that accomplish?

            Low voter turn out delegitimizes the system. If only 30% of people voted it is easy to say the system is corrupt and that outside pressure is justified. If 30% of ballots are being thrown out it calls into question the entire system.

            Okay. So say the system is "delegtimized" this way. What now? That doesn't change anything as far as I can see. The asshats in power will just… keep being in power, because no matter how morally, ethically, or even rationally unjustifiable, the corrupt system is, it's legal.

            I'm/not saying you're wrong. I don't think you are. I just don't see what it accomplishes.

            In the long run, it means revolution I guess. But in the meantime, how do we stop old ladies from getting murdered over pride flags (to use a recent example)? Cristofascists and those that profit from them winning elections legitimizes their hate. It empowers the twatknuckles that support them. Even dumb crap like calling COVID the "Chinese Virus" spurs on hate crime.

            How do we deal with that?

    • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      By arguing for the lesser of evils, you are arguing for the legitimacy of the establishment.

      • s20@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        No. I'm not. That's like saying that acknowledging the existence of the Chicago Bears means I'm a football fan.

        I'm arguing that the establishment exists and there's nothing I can do about it. I'm arguing for despair.

        All I have left is harm reduction. Which is also 100% hopeless, but it keeps me from jumping off a building because no matter how ineffective it is, it's fucking something.

        If you have a better idea, please. I'm all ears.