That was Boimler. Mariner just appropriated his program for her own purposes. She even initially objects to the fact that he based the characters off the logs of the crew.
Ah yeah you're right. It's been a hot minute since I've seen the episode. However, if I remember correctly, the reason he was making the holodeck program was to simulate crew for interviews. At least he was trying to make them as realistic as possible for a genuinely noble reason. He just happened to do something mildly horrific to get it done.
I swear, my logs on any Starfleet ship would be something like "Nice day today. I had soup." "Today I drew an art." "If a woodchuck could chuck wood..."
No. My argument is not. My argument is something else entirely. Something that you previously quoted three comments ago so I'd really appreciate it if you didn't make shit up and then shove those words down my throat.
My argument is, and has always been, that the intentions were noble. He went into wanting to further his career. As we've seen time and time again with Boimler, the dude is painfully head over heels in love with the ideals of Starfleet. For standing up for whats right but also for committing himself to what he can do. Is he the best officer? Absolutely not. Does he make constant bad decisions? Absolutely. But he routinely puts Starfleet and everyone else before himself.
During the 30-45 seconds that this is talked about on screen Boimler isn't doing this to scheme to get a better position. He's literally preparing for an interview. That's it. His tone is flat and basic. No one has an issue with what he's doing until the point about the private logs gets brought up.
Now. If you would refer back to my original comment where this all stemmed from you will see this:
Ah yeah you’re right. It’s been a hot minute since I’ve seen the episode. However, if I remember correctly, the reason he was making the holodeck program was to simulate crew for interviews. At least he was trying to make them as realistic as possible for a genuinely noble reason. He just happened to do something mildly horrific to get it done.
I completely stand by that. I'd probably add a sentence or two to the end to hammer down how horrific the private logs thing is. At least more than the joke that's on the end of the comment about what my logs would look like out of paranoia. I'm sorry if that came across as unclear but it wasn't to me. His reasons/intentions for doing it where noble. The actions were not. I never claimed that his actions were noble. You are complaining about something I never said. Please stop presuming to know what my argument is before you ask for it.
Have a good day but I'm checking out of this conversation. There's nothing good that can come from continuing this.
That was Boimler. Mariner just appropriated his program for her own purposes. She even initially objects to the fact that he based the characters off the logs of the crew.
Ah yeah you're right. It's been a hot minute since I've seen the episode. However, if I remember correctly, the reason he was making the holodeck program was to simulate crew for interviews. At least he was trying to make them as realistic as possible for a genuinely noble reason. He just happened to do something mildly horrific to get it done.
I swear, my logs on any Starfleet ship would be something like "Nice day today. I had soup." "Today I drew an art." "If a woodchuck could chuck wood..."
He wanted a leg up to advance his career....
Yes. And?
And that's hardly noble.
To you. I disagree.
Your argument is that it's noble to invade your friends' and co-workers' privacy so you can attempt to further your career goals?
No. My argument is not. My argument is something else entirely. Something that you previously quoted three comments ago so I'd really appreciate it if you didn't make shit up and then shove those words down my throat.
My argument is, and has always been, that the intentions were noble. He went into wanting to further his career. As we've seen time and time again with Boimler, the dude is painfully head over heels in love with the ideals of Starfleet. For standing up for whats right but also for committing himself to what he can do. Is he the best officer? Absolutely not. Does he make constant bad decisions? Absolutely. But he routinely puts Starfleet and everyone else before himself.
During the 30-45 seconds that this is talked about on screen Boimler isn't doing this to scheme to get a better position. He's literally preparing for an interview. That's it. His tone is flat and basic. No one has an issue with what he's doing until the point about the private logs gets brought up.
Now. If you would refer back to my original comment where this all stemmed from you will see this:
I completely stand by that. I'd probably add a sentence or two to the end to hammer down how horrific the private logs thing is. At least more than the joke that's on the end of the comment about what my logs would look like out of paranoia. I'm sorry if that came across as unclear but it wasn't to me. His reasons/intentions for doing it where noble. The actions were not. I never claimed that his actions were noble. You are complaining about something I never said. Please stop presuming to know what my argument is before you ask for it.
Have a good day but I'm checking out of this conversation. There's nothing good that can come from continuing this.