JD Vance said that ‘American power comes with certain strings attached’

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  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    4 days ago

    Do we think Vance is stupid enough to not understand that NATO primarily benefits the US? If "Europe" is cut off from the US, they're going to make deals with China and (to a lesser extent) Russia. Trump obviously doesn't understand shit, but Vance is the puppet of Peter Thiel, who you'd think would know better.

    • frozenspinach@lemmy.ml
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      3 days ago

      Do we think Vance is stupid enough to not understand that NATO primarily benefits the US?

      Right, regardless of any broader foreign policy view, Vance should at least understand it in purely cynical terms for bargaining leverage.

      But I think blindly grappling toward tariffs and no NATO is part of the instinct for attacking liberalism and neoliberalism in a big hot tangled mess of reactionary instincts rather than an intentional road to a different vision.

  • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    The dissolution of NATO would be fantastic for the Global South to no longer have a military alliance of Imperialists lording over the world, but I doubt Trump would actually follow through with that. This is a nothingburger, the collapse of NATO will not come from twitter drama.

  • nednobbins@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    This seems like an insane threat.
    The US is the primary beneficiary of NATO. Does he expect all those countries will keep hosting US military bases if NATO drops?

  • M68040 [they/them]
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    4 days ago

    Quite possibly one of the dumbest uses of nation state clout in human history

  • SweetLava [he/him]
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    4 days ago

    europe/EU needs to start regulating these twitter bots ASAP

  • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 days ago

    Sabre rattling, or legit threat?

    Their negotiation position within NATO isn't absolute, so I think the most likely response is the EU agreeing to look at it, and that Trump is smart and handsome, and then mostly doing whatever they were going to do anyway.

  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    hes not as pathological with his lies as his orange fuckbuddy but it makes his statements suspect